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US says 'all options' on the table in responding to Russian build-up near Ukraine
https://www.msn.com The National ^ | 11/26/2021 | Joyce Karam

Posted on 11/26/2021 10:53:35 AM PST by RomanSoldier19

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To: RomanSoldier19

How dare Russia have military maneuvers - within its own borders!


41 posted on 11/26/2021 12:33:34 PM PST by PGR88
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To: RomanSoldier19

Send Diaper Joe to have a one-on-one Summit with Vlad.

Diaper Joe can share tales about Cornpop and threaten a push-up contest out behind the barn.


42 posted on 11/26/2021 12:48:46 PM PST by eyedigress (Trump is my President! )
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To: eyedigress

“Send Diaper Joe to have a one-on-one Summit with Vlad.

Diaper Joe can share tales about Cornpop and threaten a push-up contest out behind the barn.”

LOL


43 posted on 11/26/2021 12:52:46 PM PST by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

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We don’t want your effing war!


44 posted on 11/26/2021 12:58:41 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MissNomer

Army of Darkness


45 posted on 11/26/2021 1:11:23 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: RomanSoldier19

Putin is shaking in his boots. NOT.


46 posted on 11/26/2021 1:32:51 PM PST by tennmountainman ( Less Lindell CONS, More AZ Style Audits)
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To: Brookhaven
"I, for one, would prefer Ukraine to still have nuclear weapons."

Thanks for the info. Found this article from 2014...updated in 2017. Surprisingly, it was published on The Huffington Post:

Too Bad Ukraine Didn't Keep Its 2,000 Nuclear Weapons

47 posted on 11/26/2021 1:38:16 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: RomanSoldier19

I’m sure CNN and MSNBC are calling Brandon a dangerous war-monger every five minutes, right?


48 posted on 11/26/2021 1:44:58 PM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

“US says ‘all options’ on the table in responding to Russian build-up near Ukraine”

Gee, where have I heard that before? Oh yeah:

“U.S. says all options on table for a decision on Afghanistan”

Like Afghanistan including surrender.


49 posted on 11/26/2021 1:46:09 PM PST by antidemoncrat (somRead more at: https://economicti Astronomers see white dwarf 'switch on and off' for first time)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Does Biden know what options are?


50 posted on 11/26/2021 3:18:02 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: SaxxonWoods

Best option considering who we have as leader.


51 posted on 11/26/2021 3:20:33 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG

Sure he does! It takes a keen analytical mind to choose between vanilla and butterscotch pudding.


52 posted on 11/26/2021 3:22:40 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: RomanSoldier19

Starting a war with Russia in their backyard? What could go wrong?


53 posted on 11/26/2021 3:38:05 PM PST by Kazan
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To: mac_truck
After the Soviet Union broke up, we got Ukraine to give up their nuclear weapons by guaranteeing their sovereignty. Well, that deal includes spilling American blood.

That's not even close to being true.

In 1994, through an accident of fate, the newly independent country of Ukraine found itself in possession of the world's third largest nuclear arsenal.

At first, Ukraine planned to keep its nuclear weapons. But, at the insistence of the two strongest powers in the world -- Russia and the United States -- Ukraine agreed to give up their nukes in exchange for perpetual guarantees of sovereignty and territorial integrity.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/too-bad-ukraine-didnt-kee_b_5235374

54 posted on 11/27/2021 6:28:08 AM PST by Brookhaven (The dystopian future is now!)
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To: Brookhaven

How many Senators ratified the treaty you claim commits the US to ‘spilling blood’ in Ukraine?:


55 posted on 11/27/2021 8:36:19 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: billyboy15

As for their submarine fleet, while it may be of some concern it does not come close to being a deterrent of our constantly on patrol fleet of ballistic missile submarines.

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Its a big concern. The Russian Navy commands one of the largest submarine fleets in the world. Russia also has a fleet of ballistic missile submarines that conduct deterrent patrols.

Read up on Russia’s new long-range nuclear-powered torpedo (i.e., Status-6 or “Poseidon”). It can be fitted with a 100-megaton nuclear warhead designed to create radioactive tsunamis, among other concerning capabilities.


56 posted on 11/27/2021 10:26:22 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Starboard

“Its a big concern. The Russian Navy commands one of the largest submarine fleets in the world. Russia also has a fleet of ballistic missile submarines that conduct deterrent patrols.”

Were Russia being run by crazed muzzies perhaps I would be concerned but the Russians do not believe in the 70 virgins bullsh*t and they know as does the rest of the world that a nuclear attack on us will bring a counter attack and total annihilation for their effort.

There is as yet no known defense against these missile subs which together can carry as 3000 or so nuke warheads with each warhead having the destructive capacity 25 times that of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki drops in 1945.

Even a full scale attack on our mainland which totally destroyed our strike capability from here while knocking out all communications would not prevent our subs from launching on their programmed targets.

There are surely many things to be concerned about but a nuke strike from Russia or China is way, way down on the list.


57 posted on 11/27/2021 10:51:55 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: RomanSoldier19

So ignoring it is an option?

L


58 posted on 11/27/2021 10:52:41 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: billyboy15

I think you’re missing my original point.

Recall that this article was all about the Russian build up and military maneuvers near Ukraine and/or Russian anxiety over NATO expansion.

What I was saying is that Russia is very sensitive to any perceived threats in the “buffer” states that border their country. The recent crescendo of concerns expressed by the administration and some European countries underscore their belief that Russia could launch some type of offensive in the region. Its Russia’s backyard and I have no doubt they could do it. Something like Crimea could well happen again without bringing the U.S. and Russia close to Armageddon.

I don’t dispute the fact that our fleet of boomers is a formidable deterrent. But another thing I think you’re missing is that neutralizing Russia’s boomers also poses a very difficult challenge to us. It’s well known that they can deploy their ballistic missile submarines into the Arctic, which is a very difficult environment for us to operate in.

A full scale war with Russia over a relatively insignificant country like Ukraine unthinkable IMO. Neither country would let things go that far IMO. As you said, the Russians are not crazed people. But they are obsessive about their borders and they can project power to achieve their desired objectives.


59 posted on 11/28/2021 7:07:16 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Starboard

You’re right, it seems we are talking about 2 different things.

I agree with you about Russia being paranoid about the border and it certainly is possible but probably unlikely they would invade Europe although personally I don’t give a damn. Biden would do nothing and NATO without us is useless.

I think the very last thing Russia or China wants is a direct confrontation with us. There would be no winners and as I mentioned before no one in the leadership of any of the three has a death wish.


60 posted on 11/28/2021 8:27:55 AM PST by billyboy15
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