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Letters to the Editor: We're letting the 2nd Amendment destroy us. The Kyle Rittenhouse verdict proves it
LA Times ^ | Nov 22, 2022

Posted on 11/22/2021 7:12:56 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage?

To the editor: I was born and raised in England, and after many years in the U.S. I am still bewildered by how the 2nd Amendment has been manipulated by a powerful minority. ("Will Rittenhouse acquittal lead to more armed confrontations at protests?" Nov. 19)

The origins of this amendment, ratified in 1789, are clearly rooted in the desire to form state militias to frustrate any perceived overreach by a stronger federal government. The progenitor was the English Bill of Rights Act of 1689, which had a provision allowing the people to bear arms and possibly protect a newly formed Parliament against a misbehaving monarchy.

But somehow this original intent has morphed from allowing you to keep a slow-loading musket in your closet just in case a quickly formed militia is needed, to permitting a 17-year-old with an assault rifle slung around his neck to strut about a volatile riot area and shoot people he perceives as a threat.

I feel many in this country are so obsessed with guns and the 2nd Amendment that they cannot step back and see the mayhem they are causing.

Graham Martin, Woodland Hills

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; banglist; california; grahammartin; kenosha; kylerittenhouse; losangeles; losangelesslimes; losangelestimes; mediawingofthednc; nra; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; rittenhouse; secondamendment; woodlandhills
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To: TigerClaws
100 million were murdered by their governments in the 20th century alone. Why the founders recognized the genius of the 2A.

Yes, the true purpose of the 2A is as a check against a misbehaving government.

Not just a government which directly oppresses, but also a government which selectively "stands down" its police force, as happened in Kenosha, and allows thugs to loot and burn.

The value of the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict, is that it puts both the State and the thugs on notice that there are limits to what people will put up with.

81 posted on 11/23/2021 1:46:47 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: GreyHoundSailor

You are insane.


82 posted on 11/23/2021 1:49:35 AM PST by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
To the editor: I was born and raised in England

Get the f out of my country.

83 posted on 11/23/2021 1:58:47 AM PST by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I too was born in the UK. Unlike You I was raised in the US. Unlike you I studied British history.you and most othe have no concept of your true national history. Especially when it comes to the banning of firearms. Your laws and attitudes towards self defense as a whole are ludicrous.
I live six months of the years in the US and six months of the year in Lincolnshire and have done so for decades. Go read and understand your natuonal history.
The second amendment to constitution, in the sense of militias has less to do with state milititas and everything to do with local militias. Not to mention the God-given right of every human to defend not only himself but any other human as befits the situation.


84 posted on 11/23/2021 2:10:04 AM PST by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Graham Martin should go the heck back to England.

His musket-to-assault rifle nonsense makes about as much sense as limiting free speech of the press to Franklin printing presses with typesets. If you want original intent and strict conformance to the norm-of-the-day back in 1789, there it is.


85 posted on 11/23/2021 2:11:14 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

“The origins of this amendment, ratified in 1789, are clearly rooted in the desire to form state militias to frustrate any perceived overreach by a stronger federal government.”

1) Britain doesn’t have bears?

2) I was reading that a British gal fought off an attacker using a sword!


86 posted on 11/23/2021 2:12:14 AM PST by Does so (DC: "The Chinese city on top of a hill".)
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To: TigerClaws

An unarmed populace is an obedient one


87 posted on 11/23/2021 2:59:40 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: RAldrich

Wait...didn’t one of fellow Brits save another from deadly assault using a Narwhale tusk?
I say, next time BLM comes to his neighborhood, have him stand guard at the gate with a Narwhale tusk.
That should be enough.


88 posted on 11/23/2021 3:01:16 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (This is NOT a pandemic of the unvaxx'd. It is a complete loss of common sense.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

2nd amendment ping. Remember folks, while this writer believes you and I should not possess a weapon, he absolutely demands that the government he votes for possess weapons so he can outsource my murder to government.


89 posted on 11/23/2021 3:31:50 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Brits ALWAYS think they have a better grasp over anyone else of the U.S. Constitution, and the bill of rights, especially the 2nd Amendment. Without fail!


90 posted on 11/23/2021 4:08:30 AM PST by KobraKai
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
If Kyle had not been armed that night he would be horribly dead.

Not necessarily. The other underage boys that Rosenbaum attacked are not dead. I assume that Antifa predator would have just raped Kyle if he had been unarmed. Huber and Grosskreutz would have had no reason to get involved, since abusing children is business as usual for Antifa.

91 posted on 11/23/2021 6:54:58 AM PST by Pollster1 (America is no longer in Claire Wolfe's "awkward stage")
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Sir-— I used to live near Woodland Hills.

Had an accounting client there.

I had multiple prowlers in the 27 years I had that house in the San Fernando Valley.

I racked my Shotgun in the middle of the night after dog crawled across my legs & growled to wake me up. The rapid retreating footsteps saved me from wasting AMMO.

You can stick to your thoughts about guns & the 2nd Amendment. YOU ARE WRONG....

You have a right to live YOUR OWN LIFE as you wish...

HOWEVER-—YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE MY LIFE AS YOU WOULD WISH.

That is MY decision. NEVER YOURS...

YOU WOULD NEVER “COME TO MY RESCUE” IF I NEEDED YOU...

Don’t lie to yourself, me & others that you would do such.

As good as LAPD is, they cannot respond quickly enough when it takes minutes for them to do so, and it takes only seconds for ME to be injured or killed.

I now live more rural, and I don’t expect a deputy in less than 20 minutes. We have very good deputies, but it is a large county.

WHO do I turn to until then????

MR Remington
MR Smith
MR Wesson
Mr Colt
Mr Henry
Mr Browning
Mr Winchester
& MANY OTHERS

Thank GOD for their inventiveness.

BTW-—Woodland Hills isn’t as safe as IT USED TO BE. MY client moved to Santa Paula.

Sounds like Beer Muscles at your end. You are fooling yourself.


92 posted on 11/23/2021 9:09:44 AM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: RAldrich

I wonder if he was there when WATTS was burned down...

OR the 1992 riots when the Korean shop owners went to the roofs , well armed.


93 posted on 11/23/2021 9:16:20 AM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: ctdonath2

14 & 15 year olds were in the Revolution.


94 posted on 11/23/2021 9:17:08 AM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: catnipman
hey, Graham, American guns kept you Brits from being eaten by the Germans ... twice

Exactly. NO Brit has any valid opinion that runs counter to the inalienable right to keep and bear arms. Let this cretin go clean the cemeteries of Allies who gave their lives defending Britain.

95 posted on 11/23/2021 9:19:36 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Indeed I have friends from England that became American citizens to escape all the socialism there.


96 posted on 11/23/2021 9:46:25 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
They use to sing, There'll Always Be an England.

If England had a second amendment equivalent right, I might sing along.
97 posted on 11/23/2021 10:14:44 AM PST by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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To: ridesthemiles

Don’t confuse the American Revolution with The [Communist] Revolution.


98 posted on 11/23/2021 10:17:37 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Statistics don't matter when they happen to you.)
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To: doorgunner69
Whenever some liberal starts saying “clearly” you know what follows is their narrow emotional view of something

Whenever Obama said "Let me be clear," I knew I was about to hear something really opaque.

99 posted on 11/23/2021 10:22:01 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: .44 Special

I’m normal compared with the rest of guys I hang with.


100 posted on 11/23/2021 2:12:35 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor (LGBTQ - Let's Get Brandon To Quit)
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