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Washington scientist admits to fabricating steel-strength results for US Navy subs for over 30 years: Took 'shortcuts' because she thought safety test criteria was 'stupid'
UK Daily Mail ^ | 11/09/2021 | Alex Hammer

Posted on 11/09/2021 12:57:49 PM PST by DFG

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To: mylife

Absolutely. There is probably a built-in safety factor though.


41 posted on 11/09/2021 2:18:06 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: DFG

She’d be singing a different tune if she were on a sub at test depth.


42 posted on 11/09/2021 2:26:40 PM PST by SubVet72
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To: conejo99
If not maybe she was right about the validity of the tests.

It damned well does not matter. If she thought the tests were meaningless or unnecessary there are ways to voice that concern. If she thought that they were inadequate she should have called ethics or the Navy inspector general. What she did cannot in any way be justified regardless of whether she was (in some sense) "right".

Her behavior is inexcusable and criminal. Damn right she should go to jail. Pour encourage les autres.

43 posted on 11/09/2021 2:35:35 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Diana Moon Glampers for Secretary of Education! )
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To: smokingfrog

I always tried to put my stuff right in the middle of the test range.
Never pencil whipped anything that human life depends on.


44 posted on 11/09/2021 2:43:22 PM PST by mylife (Joe Biden is like bald tires in the rain, Alec Baldwin with a gun....)
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To: DFG

I would say she most definitely followed her “moral compass.”


45 posted on 11/09/2021 2:46:58 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: DFG

Not one picture of her out there. Totally scrubbed.

Asian? Or not?

In payola accepting bribes?


46 posted on 11/09/2021 2:50:58 PM PST by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: steve86
"I realize Arctic temps can be cold but when submerged nothing like that."

One of the standard ways to reproducibly decrease the time slow degradation takes to show up is to expose the material to a larger temperature differential. Something that might take years to reach breaking point at exposure temp will often reach said point far sooner.

47 posted on 11/09/2021 2:57:26 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: Wonder Warthog

I conceded in #34.


48 posted on 11/09/2021 3:15:29 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: DFG

She should be put in jail so she can test if metal bars follow testing standards.


49 posted on 11/09/2021 3:28:19 PM PST by pas
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To: conejo99

<>Was she discovered because of structural problems?<>

That question was answered in the article. Sheesh.


50 posted on 11/09/2021 3:48:43 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: DFG

Put her in a small 1 person sized underwater craft made from the defective steel and lower her down to what the navy wanted as crush depth and test the steel that way.

Do the same for all those involved who let 1 person change the test results.

This is like having 1 accountant do the books. They steal for years and only get caught when they go on vacation and someone covers for them.


51 posted on 11/09/2021 3:53:01 PM PST by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: steve86
"I conceded in #34."

Not trying to get anyone to concede...just pass on ACCURATE info. FWIW, I "am" a real, hard scientist (PhD Chemist), and this female should rot in jail until she dies.

52 posted on 11/09/2021 4:29:39 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: DFG

I would say let the crew of a fast attack have their way with her but I think that would only put them in more danger.

Here is so info on her. Yeah, she’s a Lib.

https://rabidrepublicanblog.com/arrogant-aa-eeo-liar-endangered-submarines/


53 posted on 11/09/2021 4:46:47 PM PST by Az Joe ("Scratch a Liberal, and a Fascist bleeds")
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To: conejo99
"maybe she was right about the validity of the tests."

In one sense, she probably was right. It's highly unlikely that a ship would ever see a water temperature of -100F. The water would be ice long before it got that cold. Note that the Titanic failed because of cold water. The Titanic's hull was made of steel that became brittle at temperatures like those in the North Atlantic. The metal tore, instead of denting when the iceberg was hit. The temperature there, though, was likely a hundred or so degrees warmer than the -100F specification. Steel has come a long way since then.

Nevertheless, her responsibility as an engineer is to get the specification changed, not to falsify the test data.

54 posted on 11/09/2021 4:48:59 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Capitalism is what happens when you leave people alone.)
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To: DFG

How did this come to light?


55 posted on 11/09/2021 4:50:54 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: dainbramaged

No she belongs executed.


56 posted on 11/09/2021 5:30:07 PM PST by Jumper
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To: Wonder Warthog

I was a scientist as well (national lab).


57 posted on 11/09/2021 9:44:54 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: janetjanet998

Bradken is a Delaware corporation with its principal place of business in Kansas City, Missouri, operating as a wholly owned subsidiary of Bradken Ltd. of Newcastle, Australia, which is a subsidiary of Hitachi Construction Machinery. Elaine Thomas, 66, is a resident of Auburn, Washington.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdwa/pr/bradken-inc-pays-108-million-settle-false-claims-act-allegations-and-enters-deferred

I wish the military cared as much about the troops as they do their steel.


58 posted on 11/09/2021 11:49:39 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.I ha)
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To: Bayard

Most engineering stuff has a “factor of safety” built into it. I do stuff and like precise measurements, even though the standards don’t go into that much detail.

I had a client once tell me that they don’t need the details and precision - just go by the standards. “We multiply your number by 6 anyway as a factor of safety.”

So I’m guessing that in 32 years they never had a failure due to the steel. She may not have added in the factor of safety. Or put it at 2 instead of 6. I think those factors of safety take into account the lawyers rather than science.


59 posted on 11/09/2021 11:57:19 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: steve86

If she has a sound argument she could have advanced it. Subsafe came after the Thresher disaster. Over strength is the navy’s choice to make, not hers. She should be executed.

Unforgivable.


60 posted on 11/10/2021 3:01:45 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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