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1 posted on 11/08/2021 7:23:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Why not to the death?
That’s what’s in the future, anyway.


2 posted on 11/08/2021 7:25:32 AM PST by Da Coyote
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The Biden Administration is illegitimate.

It is the bulwark of a communist takeover.


3 posted on 11/08/2021 7:27:25 AM PST by BrexitBen
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The Biden Administration is illegitimate.

It is the bulwark of a communist takeover.


4 posted on 11/08/2021 7:27:30 AM PST by BrexitBen
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The global fight over vaccines mandates can only now be described as fascist political theater.

People are starting to understand the vaccine does not stop the spread of Covid, the vax can have serious side-effects, it is being forced on groups who have incredibly low mortality from Covid, and effectiveness of the vaccine in preventing serious illness seems to wane anyway after 4-5 months.


5 posted on 11/08/2021 7:27:35 AM PST by PGR88
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In the meantime this utterly unconstitutional act should be ignored and nullified and continue to be nullified even if it is not overturned.

The CONSTITUTION, not Biden, or the Court, is the SUPREME law of the Land (U.S. Const., Art. VI, Cl. 2).


6 posted on 11/08/2021 7:27:45 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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The excerpt does not explain why the Administration wants a protracted fight over the mandate. The article can only be read in its entirety if you register with PJ Media.
8 posted on 11/08/2021 7:30:31 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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“...Which Is Exactly What It Wants...”

Of course!

The ‘virus’ is doing just exactly what they planned! The stranglehold it gives the ‘government’ over us, is not something they’re willing to surrender!

“In proportion as you give the state power to do things for you... you give it power to do things to you.” Albert J. Nock


9 posted on 11/08/2021 7:33:12 AM PST by SMARTY (Republics decline into democracies & democracies degenerate into despotisms. Aristotle)
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If you want another Civil War this is the way to get it.

Just keep pushing.

FJB!


11 posted on 11/08/2021 7:34:04 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: SeekAndFind

Long fight against the constitution?


12 posted on 11/08/2021 7:36:09 AM PST by vigilante2
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Basically nearly all indications even from the highly questionable statistics on sites such as World-o-meter indicate that the prevalent Delta variant is receding. In two more months there will be no more “need” for a vaccine mandate.

The only thing that has caused this to drag this out this long are the experimental “vaccines”. For proof look at the charts of India. The Delta variant hit there in April by the end of June it was basically over. If it were not for the effect that the vaccines had... it would have been over here months ago as well. The vaccines do not prevent getting Covid or transmitting Covid, but they do mess up peoples’ immune systems and mask symptoms.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/


13 posted on 11/08/2021 7:38:04 AM PST by fireman15
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As long as the injunction stays in -lace who cares how long the legal battle takes.


15 posted on 11/08/2021 7:40:47 AM PST by circlecity
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Not the Biden Administration, the Deep State. The One World Government assholes.


19 posted on 11/08/2021 8:00:47 AM PST by Old Yeller (You can’t obey your way out of tyranny.)
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Right. Because putting on a hard hat is exactly like forcing people to get injected with a chemical that has undergone no testing for side-effects past about one year.


20 posted on 11/08/2021 8:05:28 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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The Biden administration most certainly knows that the vaccine mandate won’t hold up. They previously recognized their lack of authority to impose a vaccine mandate. White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said earlier this summer that vaccine mandates are “not the role” of the federal government. “Well, I think the question here — one, that’s not the role of the federal government,” she said on July 23

I am not a legal scholar and I don't know all the precedent out there that they claim justifies that mandates can be imposed by FedGov. But I do know this: it's certainly not the role of the President to dictate to citizens what they must do. Period. The legislature can pass laws, the President can sign them but as long as we claim to be free people then we cannot have a king. And a man who says he's lost patience with our choices so he's taking them away because he says so is governing like a king.

Maybe it could stand up if congress passed it as a law. I cannot see how the President weaponizing the bureaucracy to create his own laws on a whim can. Yet ... this isn't the first such case of doing that (FBI, IRS, EPA, they all do it) and it HAS withstood judicial review.

Are we truly still a free country? I think it's a legitimate question.

22 posted on 11/08/2021 8:08:23 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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Lawsuits from many states.

JUST IN: DeSantis Responds To Biden’s New OSHA Rule Setting Jan. 4 Deadline For Vaccine Mandate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMlcnmS46SA


25 posted on 11/08/2021 8:13:44 AM PST by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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“I’m quite confident that when this finally gets fully adjudicated, not just a temporary order, the validity of this requirement will be upheld,” Klain said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday. “If OSHA can tell people to wear a hard hat on the job, to be careful around chemicals, it could put in place these simple measures to keep our workers safe.”

These are not comparable at all. But he honestly believes businesses and workers, and worse the courts, will fall for this logic. His logic is along the lines of:

Regarding the requirement that even Federal contractor employees who work remote be vaccinated: If OSHA can require workers and other onsite personnel to wear a hard hat on a multistory building’s construction site they can require the same of Walmart greeters.

Regarding his remark about chemicals. If OSHA can require full protective gear for those working with hazardous chemicals we can require it of all janitorial service workers.

One thing that can’t be shown is OSHA needing to implement this via an emergency order.


26 posted on 11/08/2021 8:17:56 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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Alot of the employers were asking for the jabs before the mandate happened. It’s sad to say this but alot of employers welcome this mandate.

I was seeing job ads requiring the jabs in early summer.

Taking the jab is playing Russian Roulette..90-95% chance you won’t get an adverse effect or even death.


29 posted on 11/08/2021 8:37:16 AM PST by uzumaki_naruto
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How many other agencies could do this? I think a few - I don;t mean legitimately, I mean as a way to keep pushing, even if nonsensical. IRS needs healthy taxpayers, make “I’ve been vaxed” one of the items on return.

They all are presumed good until knocked down.

And as that winds down, gear up legislation. Require states to mandate as a condition of handouts would be pretty effective. Worked for 21 y/o drinking age and 55 MPH speed limit. state take mney from hundreds of federal buckets. Put the mandate in every one of those.


34 posted on 11/08/2021 9:20:27 AM PST by Cboldt
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Ron Klain is a loser moron. This thing is going to get blown out of the water.


39 posted on 11/08/2021 10:55:12 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged )
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BFL


40 posted on 11/08/2021 1:57:02 PM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged )
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