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After U.S. Court of Appeals Blocked the Mandate, Biden Admin Promises 'Long Fight' Over Vaccine Mandate, Which Is Exactly What It Wants
PJ Media ^ | 11/08/2021 | Matt Margolis

Posted on 11/08/2021 7:23:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind

On Saturday, a three-judge panel from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit temporarily blocked Joe Biden’s COVID vaccine mandate on businesses with more than 100 employees. White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain said he’s confident that the mandate will eventually be held up and promised that the Biden administration would fight for the mandate, which was set to take effect in January.

“I’m quite confident that when this finally gets fully adjudicated, not just a temporary order, the validity of this requirement will be upheld,” Klain said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday. “If OSHA can tell people to wear a hard hat on the job, to be careful around chemicals, it could put in place these simple measures to keep our workers safe.”

Klain may be acting confident, but, as I said in September, Biden’s mandate is a red herring that will inevitably fail to pass constitutional muster in the courts. The Biden administration most certainly knows that the vaccine mandate won’t hold up. They previously recognized their lack of authority to impose a vaccine mandate. White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said earlier this summer that vaccine mandates are “not the role” of the federal government. “Well, I think the question here — one, that’s not the role of the federal government,” she said on July 23, offering no exception to this assessment. “That is the role that institutions, private-sector entities, and others may take. That certainly is appropriate.”

Klain may be acting confident, but, as I said in September, Biden’s mandate is a red herring that will inevitably fail to pass constitutional muster in the courts. The Biden administration most certainly knows that the vaccine mandate won’t hold up.


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To: SeekAndFind
Constitutional or not, a recent Gallup poll suggests that a majority of the public supports Biden’s mandate.

That poll is utter nonsense and will become even moreso as vaxxed people start getting COVID in the Northeast this winter.
21 posted on 11/08/2021 8:07:26 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Biden administration most certainly knows that the vaccine mandate won’t hold up. They previously recognized their lack of authority to impose a vaccine mandate. White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said earlier this summer that vaccine mandates are “not the role” of the federal government. “Well, I think the question here — one, that’s not the role of the federal government,” she said on July 23

I am not a legal scholar and I don't know all the precedent out there that they claim justifies that mandates can be imposed by FedGov. But I do know this: it's certainly not the role of the President to dictate to citizens what they must do. Period. The legislature can pass laws, the President can sign them but as long as we claim to be free people then we cannot have a king. And a man who says he's lost patience with our choices so he's taking them away because he says so is governing like a king.

Maybe it could stand up if congress passed it as a law. I cannot see how the President weaponizing the bureaucracy to create his own laws on a whim can. Yet ... this isn't the first such case of doing that (FBI, IRS, EPA, they all do it) and it HAS withstood judicial review.

Are we truly still a free country? I think it's a legitimate question.

22 posted on 11/08/2021 8:08:23 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: fireman15

Why are *we* mandated to get the jab if we want to work but welfare recipients don’t need it to sit around and not work?


23 posted on 11/08/2021 8:09:38 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: SeekAndFind

Here’s another made-up health emergency to force control:

B.C. doctor clinically diagnoses patient as suffering from ‘climate change’ – ‘Picked up his patient’s chart & penned in the words ‘climate change’

Climate change enters the ER: For the first time in his 10 years as a physician, the ER doctor picked up his patient’s chart and penned in the words “climate change.” “If we’re not looking at the underlying cause, and we’re just treating the symptoms, we’re just gonna keep falling further and further behind,” he told Glacier Media when asked why he did it. At the same time, Merritt says he hoped another family physician would read the chart, and one day, consider drawing a straighter line between their patients’ health and climate change.

... The response was immediate. Roughly 40 doctors and nurses at the small hospital — all busy trying to manage a pandemic and their regular professional lives — came together under the banner Doctors and Nurses for Planetary Health. ... Starting Thursday at noon, Lau says the non-partisan group is calling on the provincial government to, among other things, declare an “ecological emergency” and end subsidies to the fossil fuel industry. “A lot of us were really shook by this summer, by the heat dome and the wildfires that are just escalating every year,” she says. “This is about moving forward in a way that saves lives.”

You were WARNED
Calls to add ‘climate change’ to death certificates – New study demands ‘climate change’ be added as ‘pre-existing condition’

https://www.climatedepot.com/2021/11/07/b-c-doctor-clinically-diagnoses-patient-as-suffering-from-climate-change-picked-up-his-patients-chart-penned-in-the-words-climate-change/


24 posted on 11/08/2021 8:11:09 AM PST by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: SeekAndFind

Lawsuits from many states.

JUST IN: DeSantis Responds To Biden’s New OSHA Rule Setting Jan. 4 Deadline For Vaccine Mandate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMlcnmS46SA


25 posted on 11/08/2021 8:13:44 AM PST by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: SeekAndFind

“I’m quite confident that when this finally gets fully adjudicated, not just a temporary order, the validity of this requirement will be upheld,” Klain said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday. “If OSHA can tell people to wear a hard hat on the job, to be careful around chemicals, it could put in place these simple measures to keep our workers safe.”

These are not comparable at all. But he honestly believes businesses and workers, and worse the courts, will fall for this logic. His logic is along the lines of:

Regarding the requirement that even Federal contractor employees who work remote be vaccinated: If OSHA can require workers and other onsite personnel to wear a hard hat on a multistory building’s construction site they can require the same of Walmart greeters.

Regarding his remark about chemicals. If OSHA can require full protective gear for those working with hazardous chemicals we can require it of all janitorial service workers.

One thing that can’t be shown is OSHA needing to implement this via an emergency order.


26 posted on 11/08/2021 8:17:56 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Is it scientific to mandate for over 100 employees? What if there are 90 employees? If they go to 50, is that scientific?


27 posted on 11/08/2021 8:20:31 AM PST by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Antoninus

Yup—the failure of the vaxxes plus some nasty side effects are gonna teach some gullible people that they were scammed by the vaxx-pushers.

Then the grieving process will begin for the vaxx victims—the Five Stages:

1. Denial
2. Anger—this is gonna get ugly, and the vaxx pushers will not see it coming.
3. Bargaining—not sure what this will look like...
4. Depression—this will not be fun—especially for folks with serious side effects.
5. Acceptance—when folks fully understand they were conned and who did it to them

Then the international Nuremberg trials for Big Pharma and the government vaxx mandate politicians around the world can begin...


28 posted on 11/08/2021 8:20:50 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Alot of the employers were asking for the jabs before the mandate happened. It’s sad to say this but alot of employers welcome this mandate.

I was seeing job ads requiring the jabs in early summer.

Taking the jab is playing Russian Roulette..90-95% chance you won’t get an adverse effect or even death.


29 posted on 11/08/2021 8:37:16 AM PST by uzumaki_naruto
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To: cgbg

I think we are in stage one right now.


30 posted on 11/08/2021 8:50:09 AM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: uzumaki_naruto

It will be years before we fully understand all the adverse effects from these vaccines...they are a ticking time bomb.


31 posted on 11/08/2021 8:54:21 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg

@ cgbg

you are right...too bad no one is fighting the mandate for federal employees and contractors.


32 posted on 11/08/2021 9:02:51 AM PST by uzumaki_naruto
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To: Da Coyote
Why not to the death?

That’s what’s in the future, anyway.

It's treason and mutiny only if your side loses. If you win school children will be taught 200 years from now of national holidays named after you. Just like George Washington's birthday was.

33 posted on 11/08/2021 9:10:25 AM PST by USCG SimTech ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

How many other agencies could do this? I think a few - I don;t mean legitimately, I mean as a way to keep pushing, even if nonsensical. IRS needs healthy taxpayers, make “I’ve been vaxed” one of the items on return.

They all are presumed good until knocked down.

And as that winds down, gear up legislation. Require states to mandate as a condition of handouts would be pretty effective. Worked for 21 y/o drinking age and 55 MPH speed limit. state take mney from hundreds of federal buckets. Put the mandate in every one of those.


34 posted on 11/08/2021 9:20:27 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: SeekAndFind

and, its a BS poll


35 posted on 11/08/2021 9:23:56 AM PST by neverbluffer
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To: cgbg
-- Nuremberg trials for all Big Pharma Boards of Directors, senior execs and politicians all over the world pushing this insane human rights abuse. --

Nuremberg trials was military tribunal by a conquering army. before that, all was legal. What in place here is there is no country willing to prosecuute another, and of course no country will prosecute itself.

There is no orderly fix when governments revolt against and oppress their people, and as far as I know, all oppressive actions are justified by the perpetrators as being "for the greater good."

I'll be surprised if there is so much as a "mistakes were made" pseudo-apology. The players are in this for the duration, and will never, ever let up.

36 posted on 11/08/2021 9:26:30 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

This will have to be “bottom up”.

The international pfascists are not gonna go down easy...

Countries around the world are going to have to get new governments and then fight together for international justice.

It can happen if the body count gets high enough...


37 posted on 11/08/2021 9:28:54 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg

Bottoms up will be just fine. There are more of us than there are of them.


38 posted on 11/08/2021 9:30:46 AM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ron Klain is a loser moron. This thing is going to get blown out of the water.


39 posted on 11/08/2021 10:55:12 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged )
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To: SeekAndFind

BFL


40 posted on 11/08/2021 1:57:02 PM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged )
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