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High Court Appears Likely to Strike Down New York Gun Law
Newsmax ^ | November 3, 2021

Posted on 11/03/2021 11:33:29 AM PDT by Navy Patriot

The Supreme Court on Wednesday seemed ready to strike down a restrictive New York gun permitting law, but the justices also seemed worried that a broad ruling could threaten gun restrictions on subways, bars, stadiums and other gathering places.

The court was hearing arguments in its biggest guns case in more than a decade, a dispute over whether New York's law violates the Second Amendment right to “keep and bear arms.”

Chief Justice John Roberts and other conservative members of the court, which has a 6-3 conservative majority, suggested New York's law goes too far. Why, Roberts asked, does a person seeking a license to carry a gun in public for self defense have to show a special need to do so. “The idea that you would need a license to exercise a right is unusual with regard to the Bill of Rights,” he said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; johnroberts; newyork; newyorkcity; nra; scotus; secondamendment
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Finally.
1 posted on 11/03/2021 11:33:29 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot

Can California be far behind?


2 posted on 11/03/2021 11:34:40 AM PDT by Fai Mao (I don't think we have enough telephone poles., )
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To: Navy Patriot

watch crime start to plummet...

as soon as they recognize the second amendment as everyone’s permit


3 posted on 11/03/2021 11:35:01 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: Navy Patriot
Why, Roberts asked, does a person seeking a license to carry a gun in public for self defense have to show a special need to do so. “The idea that you would need a license to exercise a right is unusual with regard to the Bill of Rights,” he said.

Knock me over with a feather.

4 posted on 11/03/2021 11:36:41 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: Navy Patriot; mylife; Joe Brower; MaxMax; Randy Larsen; waterhill; Envisioning; AZ .44 MAG; ...

RKBA Ping List


This Ping List is for all things pertaining to infringes upon or victories for the 2nd Amendment.

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or deleted from the list.

More 2nd Amendment related articles on FR's Bang List.

5 posted on 11/03/2021 11:36:44 AM PDT by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Navy Patriot
Nice to see.

Except for the almost laughable line of calling Roberts a conservative.

6 posted on 11/03/2021 11:37:03 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Roberts will declare it a tax and not a restriction if he can find a way to do so.


7 posted on 11/03/2021 11:38:09 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot
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To: Navy Patriot

Roberts will declare it a tax and not a restriction if he can find a way to do so.


8 posted on 11/03/2021 11:38:09 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot
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To: 1Old Pro

me too. constitutional carry?


9 posted on 11/03/2021 11:41:04 AM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: 1Old Pro

Ditto!

Don’t know who kidnapped and replaced John Roberts on the supreme Court but I say they should keep him. I like this John Roberts.


10 posted on 11/03/2021 11:44:32 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Navy Patriot

Seriously? How simple is this: property-holder makes the call, on anything that does not create an undue burden on the right to bear arms.

Yankees don’t want guns... fine, no guns in Yankee Stadium. NY Thruway doesn’t want guns... tough shot, it’s an undue burden to avoid a public highway in transportation. Not sure where all the gray areas shake out (Amtrak? Subways?) but that’s why legislatures, not courts, make laws. Too bad upholding your oaths to uphold the constitution is unfashionable; it might mean the courts might have to presume to defend those gray areas.


11 posted on 11/03/2021 11:45:10 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Navy Patriot

It’s that damned NRA, or sumpthin.


12 posted on 11/03/2021 11:46:23 AM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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To: dangus
The property owner of public property is the Citizen.

If a Public SERVANT doesn't want to go where a Citizen is armed on his own property he can go to Cuba and be a Public "Servant" there.

13 posted on 11/03/2021 11:53:49 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: joshua c; 1Old Pro
me too. constitutional carry?

In a perfect world, yes, of course nationwide Constitutional Carry would be the only possible result from this case.

But practically speaking, the most we can hope for is a ruling that banishes "may issue" as practiced in California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, and Rhode Island.

Look for licensing requirements in those states to change to onerous burdens such as 40 hours of training, mandatory liability insurance, and severe penalties for very minor infractions.

And don't expect national reciprocity in this ruling, either. That will have to be separately litigated and will take another decade to reach the Supremes.

14 posted on 11/03/2021 11:54:19 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Look for licensing requirements in those states to change to onerous burdens such as 40 hours of training, mandatory liability insurance, and severe penalties for very minor infractions.

Hopefully I'm grandfathered :)

15 posted on 11/03/2021 11:56:37 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: PROCON

Read it right. It’s just the style of writing back then. Those are two separate sentences. AND they appear as separate sentences in the Constitution for the State of Vermont and other states.


16 posted on 11/03/2021 12:16:22 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Yo-Yo

https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2021/20-843_i4dk.pdf

Reading the transcript, I am not so certain we’ll get the blanket ruling. It’ll be narrow and cowardly.


17 posted on 11/03/2021 12:22:18 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Navy Patriot

“... nobody needs 10 bullets to kill a deer ...” Andrew Cuomo


18 posted on 11/03/2021 12:27:06 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Socialism always ends in concentration camps and murder.)
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To: usconservative

“I like this John Roberts.”


This was oral arguments, which mean almost nothing.

Wait until the final decision...you won’t like that John Roberts.

Any decision of consequence for the Deep State, Roberts ***ALWAYS*** lines up with the DS side of the case, at least since the original Obamacare decision. I am convinced that he is compromised, and that he was told that he can rule as he sees fit, except in cases where it is communicated to him that he has to vote a certain way, or else.


19 posted on 11/03/2021 12:44:09 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Ancesthntr
I see I'm gonna have to re-instate putting a sarcasm tag on the posts I intend to be sarcasm.

Or humor. Maybe humor would've been better for that post.

I dunno, so many tags, so little time.

20 posted on 11/03/2021 12:56:37 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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