Posted on 10/27/2021 6:53:14 AM PDT by frithguild
SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) — Investigators plan to discuss their initial findings Wednesday in the fatal movie-set shooting in which Alec Baldwin fired a prop gun, killing a cinematographer and wounding the director.*** The news conference by Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza and District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies promises the first detailed public comments by investigators about the killing of 42-year-old Halyna Hutchins during a rehearsal at a New Mexico ranch. ***Carmack-Altwies told The Associated Press prior to the news conference that the investigation is still in its early stages — far from any decisions about whether or not to file criminal charges.***Baldwin in his role as actor appeared unlikely to be held criminally or civilly liable for the tragedy. As a producer, however, he is among a long list of associates on the film who could face some sort of liability.
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“Special people” are never really held to account.
“… Baldwin in his role as actor appeared unlikely to be held criminally or civilly liable for the tragedy.…”
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Bull crap! He also has INDIVIDUAL liability for his instant actions while in the role of actor.
Prop guns cannot shoot projectiles.
To me it points to Baldwin not having control over his production.
I get it: Baldwn may get the OJ trestment. But there are living witnesses to what happened this time.
And isn’t Hulya’s husband a well-connected attorney himself? Two kids and and a mom taken away by a legendary Hollyweird hot-head? Will a jury in a county that went all-in for Biden really allow Baldwin that much unchecked privilege?
Baldwin has been in a lot of movies and TV shows. He knew or should have known that it was his responsibility to check that the firearm was unloaded when it came into his possession. He clearly did not check it. Therefore he was negligent. Period.
Let me guess, “Alec Baldwin couldn’t have known the weapon was loaded because he was following procedures on the set that assured him the gun wasn’t loaded.”
Except the gun WAS loaded, Alec Baldwin didn’t look, and Alec Baldwin pulled the trigger at least once if not more, and Alec Baldwin killed someone with a handgun that he was not qualified to hold.
By accounts of the people who walked out, this movie was shot at breakneck speed and costs were cut at every corner and a general lack of safety every day.
He will write some big checks however the public may never know how this is settled. I will maintain my belief that he is an unmitigated asshole regardless.
Yup.
Also, the prop master (so I’ve heard) simply grabbed the gun, yelled “Cold Gun!” (meaning: safe) and gave it to Baldwin. The prop master should have checked and made an actual determination, then yelled “Cold gun!” and then handed it to Baldwin, who should have also done a check.
Terrible process.
I blame the producer for the lax atmosphere. The producer is Baldwin.
That would be unjust. The one who fires the gun is responsible for the effects of firing the gun.
Apparently angry, hate-filled SOBs who hate Trump get a free pass to kill.
Baldwin came out with an outburst against conservatives several years ago. I don’t remember the details.
You're probably right. Baldwin is a lefty, therefore "protected" from his own mistakes up to a stupendous level. He'll no-doubt get away with negligent homicide here.
They'll vilify who-ever used the firearm and returned it to the set without clearing it. That is all well and good, that person or persons made a serious mistake.
But they also need to realize that at least 3 other people made serious mistakes.
The armorer put it on a cart for use - without checking it.
The assistant director picked it up, announced it was a "cold gun" - without checking it.
Baldwin accepted it from the assistant director and used it - without checking it.
Of the 3 or 4 people involved in this chain of events/mistakes that led up to a fatal shooting I fault Mr. Baldwin the most, and the armorer a close second.
Mr. Baldwin is most at fault. If someone hands you a real firearm it is basic firearm safety to check it. Period. Even more so given that you intend to point it at someone - someone you don't actually want to shoot. You are going to intentionally violate a couple of the basic rules of firearm safety, so you had damn well better make sure you are following the others. It is inconceivable to me that he would pick up a firearm to point and shoot at someone without verifying two or three times - himself - that it was empty. I couldn't do it. I would have to check it two or three times, I'd then point it at the ground and dry fire it through probably 12 times, twice around the cylinder.
The armorer screwed up nearly as bad. They are supposed to be the professional on set. There is no excuse for her actions.
The assistant director I could almost forgive as having made a simple mistake - picking up a firearm and not checking it. You shouldn't, if you handle firearms and are at all trained you should know to check it. However, someone untrained, yes it is all too believable an untrained fool would pick up a firearm and assume its condition. However, announcing it was "cold" without actually having checked it is unforgivable.
True - I am Commenting mainly on what I think the Prosecutor will do - blame the pinker. How a civil case will go is a different issue.
Baldwin is the Producer. The buck stops with him.
That would be the asst director. The armorer set out three guns and the asst director chose one of them and handed it to Baldwin and said Cold Gun.
Alec is running the set on the cheap, is the head honcho, pointed the gun at a person and didn’t check it. He’ll get off due to his last name. Anyone else would be looking at 20 years.
Still early
You are illustration my point actually. The Prosecutor can say that we believe that proving negligence of Mr. Baldwin beyond a reasonable doubt has practical difficulties, given the involvement of multiple agencies that contributed to the harm. Whether to prosecute is up to their discretion - in a 71% Biden district.
All the more opportunity to get to him, to "persuade" that the benefits of falling in line with the message to protect Baldwin is the better long term strategy.
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