Posted on 10/22/2021 10:38:48 AM PDT by Brookhaven
The repercussions over Poland’s unwillingness to adhere to European law are increasing by the day, with the EU leaders divided and its institutions at war. However the situation is resolved, it’s proving very damaging to the bloc.
Poland’s refusal to bow to European Union pressure has revealed a fissure at the heart of the bloc. Brussels simply does not know how to proceed in its battle with Poland over the supremacy of EU law. Some want the Poles punished now, others want more negotiations, while Hungary is steadfastly standing by its ally.
European leaders met on Thursday in Brussels to discuss the situation. The European Council summit was, however, a torrid affair with leaders unable to agree over how to handle the tense situation. The issue was deemed so delicate that European Council President Charles Michel attempted to keep it off the agenda, only for France and other Western members to demand its inclusion.
Indeed, it seems that Michel’s instincts were correct, as its inclusion only revealed how divided European leaders are about how to deal with Poland. Some wanted to see the country punished for its insubordination, some supported the Poles’ stance, and others were keen to see a compromise.
In one corner were French President Emmanuel Macron and Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte who want to see Poland penalised for its actions. Indeed, Rutte said “the independence of the Polish judiciary is the key issue we have to discuss. It is very difficult to see how a big new fund of money could be made available to Poland when this is not settled.”
Rutte also attempted to have the leaders temporarily end Poland’s voting rights until the situation was sorted, although he failed to garner enough support for this penalty.
On the opposite side of the debate was Viktor Orban, the Hungarian PM. Orban, who is despised by Brussels, said, “The fact is very clear: the primacy of EU law is not in the treaty at all, so the EU has primacy where it has competencies… what’s going on here is regularly that European institutions circumvent the rights of the national parliament and government.”
Stood between the warring sides was Angela Merkel, the outgoing German chancellor. Merkel, who was clearly scarred by Brexit, urged both sides to compromise. She said, “Germany does not want to have a Polexit. Poland’s place is in the middle of Europe…we must not talk about how to isolate. We must try to fix the problem.”
Moreover, Charles Michel, who is a former Belgian PM, said that whereas the EU needed to be “firm” on rule of law, it also had to “engage in dialogue so we can achieve positive results.” So, more jaw jaw and not war war, as Winston Churchill once said.
However, it is not only the national leaders who are divided over how to deal with Poland; the EU institutions are equally split. Whereas the European Commission wants to continue with negotiations, the European Parliament, which is far more ideological than the Commission, wants to see Poland and Hungary punished, and punished now.
So impatient are MEPs that they have given Commission President Ursula von der Leyen a deadline of November 2 to punish Poland, or they will initiate legal proceedings against the European Commission. Yes, that’s right, the European Parliament is going to sue the European Commission because it believes that it is treating Poland with kid gloves.
When announcing the controversial move, the president of the European Parliament David Sassoli said that “EU Member States that violate the rule of law should not receive EU funds. Last year, Parliament fought hard for a mechanism to ensure this. However, so far, the European Commission has been reluctant to use it…I have therefore asked our legal services to prepare a lawsuit against the Commission to ensure that EU rules are properly enforced.”
Now I can’t say I am surprised, as the European Parliament is always the outrider on issues like this. During the arduous Brexit negotiations, I saw first-hand that the European Parliament was far more determined to punish Britain for having the temerity to leave the club than the European Commission.
The European Parliament always wants the rules – as they interpret them – followed to the letter. Moreover, the MEPs dislike the Polish and Hungarian governments on ideological grounds and want them rebuked. Indeed, whereas the European Commission is made up of bureaucrats willing to negotiate and then compromise, the MEPs could be described as the EU’s equivalent of the Taliban.
In all, it has been a good week for the Polish government and a terrible one for the EU. Polish PM Mateusz Morawiecki’s confident and unapologetic performance in the European Parliament on Tuesday certainly set the tone for what was to come. In telling MEPs that his country would not be “blackmailed” or “intimidated,” by Brussels, he put the ball firmly in the EU’s court.
Since then, the European Parliament has threatened to sue the European Commission and EU leaders have revealed that they are divided about how to proceed. Poland has clearly won this battle, but whether it wins the war is another matter altogether. It seems, however, that this dispute is going to rumble on for some time to come, and who knows how or where it will end.
Awwww...
E.U. > P.U.
War in Europe before it is over.
” Brussels simply does not know how to proceed in its battle with Poland over the supremacy of EU law”
No, Brussels simply does not know how to make Poland bend to it’s will and destroy their society. Give up your tyrannical plans and the solutions is easy.
Being an unelected body the EU Parliament will inevitably become a totalitarian murder state.
Poland and Hungary actually make sense.
They are the ones that are making their people and national interests #1, concerned about sovereignty, and culture.
It is the rest of Europe that should take their cue from Poland and Hungary and not vice versa.
Bump
The EU could very easily drive the Eastern European countries out of their organization and bring them closer to Russia.
“the independence of the Polish judiciary is the key issue we have to discuss. It is very difficult to see how a big new fund of money could be made available to Poland when this is not settled.”
How about letting the Polish people ultimately decide by plebiscite judicial issues that the Polish legislature (or Polish executive) places before the Polish people?
The Polish people are independent.
From the depths of history, from dark lands
Z głębi dziejów, z krain mrocznych
Ancient forests, fields and steppes
Puszcz odwiecznych, pól i stepów
Our pedigree, our beginning
Nasz rodowód, nasz początek
Hen, from Piast, Krak, Lech
Hen, od Piasta, Kraka, Lecha
A long chain of human lives
Długi łańcuch ludzkich istnień
Connected by a simple thought
Połączonych myślą prostą
Let Poland, let Poland
Żeby Polska, żeby Polska
May Poland be Poland!
Żeby Polska była Polską!
Let Poland, let Poland
Żeby Polska, żeby Polska
May Poland be Poland!
Żeby Polska była Polską!
Then when the fate is unknown
Wtedy kiedy los nieznany
He spread us around the corners
Rozsypywał nas po kątach
When the foreign winds rushed
Kiedy obce wiatry gnały
Alien eagles on banners
Obce orły na proporcach
It exploded by the fires
Przy ogniskach wybuchała
An indefatigable homely note
Niezmożona nuta swojska
Let Poland, let Poland
Żeby Polska, żeby Polska
May Poland be Poland!
Żeby Polska była Polską!
Let Poland, let Poland
Żeby Polska, żeby Polska
May Poland be Poland!
Żeby Polska była Polską!
The student dropped the portrait of the tsar
Zrzucał uczeń portret cara
Father Ściegienny was praying
Ksiądz Ściegienny wznosił modły
He was dressing Drzymała’s wagon
Opatrywał wóz Drzymała
Norwid wrote proud poems
Dumne wiersze pisał Norwid
And who could keep the saber
I kto szablę mógł utrzymać
This formed a legion, an army
Ten formował legion, wojsko
Let Poland, let Poland
Żeby Polska, żeby Polska
May Poland be Poland!
Żeby Polska była Polską!
Let Poland, let Poland
Żeby Polska, żeby Polska
May Poland be Poland!
Żeby Polska była Polską!
Mothers, wives in dark rooms
Matki, żony w mrocznych izbach
They embroidered on the banners
Wyszywały na sztandarach
The slogan: “Honor and the Fatherland”
Hasło: “Honor i Ojczyzna”
And faith moved into the field
I ruszała w pole wiara
And faith in the field was moving
I ruszała wiara w pole
From Chicago to Tobolsk
Od Chicago do Tobolska
Let Poland, let Poland
Żeby Polska, żeby Polska
May Poland be Poland!
Żeby Polska była Polską!
Let Poland, let Poland
Żeby Polska, żeby Polska
May Poland be Poland!
Żeby Polska była Polską!
Let Poland, let Poland
Żeby Polska, żeby Polska
May Poland be Poland!
Żeby Polska była Polską!
Let Poland, let Poland
Żeby Polska, żeby Polska
May Poland be Poland!
Żeby Polska była Polską!
Reading the Polish lyrics, I kept having images of them being set to a driving dark metal track and sung by Sabaton. Or the Polish rap group Bonus RPK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfDECBqZ03k
The EU isn’t going to force anyone out. They are terrified of nations leaving the EU because that kills the whole scam. And Poles would never align with Russia.
I think Eastern European nations might ban together and walk and form their own trade zone.
Poland, Czech republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, etc.
Your point about Poland aligning with Russia is well taken.
I think your observation about a trade zone, something modelled on the European Free Trade Zone between the Eastern European countries is a very distinct possibility.
I do think that if they do form such a customs union, Russia will be its major trading partner and hopefully the US will be a major partner as well.
Polexit keyword, sorted:
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