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What is causing the backlog of container ships off California?
10/18/21

Posted on 10/19/2021 6:30:29 PM PDT by MAGA2017

I'm looking for a simple explanation of what is causing this backlog of container ships off the California coast. I've been seeing a wide ranges of reasons including:

A) environmental California trucking regulations from the California Air Resources Board which mandates all trucks must be 2011 or newer.

B) CA law AB-5 which bans bans owner operators which was aimed at Uber and Lyft drivers but encompassed and banned almost all freelance jobs.

C) Biden/Newsom vaccine mandates.

Is it a combination of all of this and or some other factors? Democrats talk about a lack of truck drivers but why would there suddenly be a lack of drivers?


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1 posted on 10/19/2021 6:30:29 PM PDT by MAGA2017
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It would hilarious if Bidet went full Mao Mao and drafted southern CA professors and college students and made them unload the freight on the docks!


2 posted on 10/19/2021 6:32:08 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: MAGA2017

You left out racsim and global warming.

And Trump.


3 posted on 10/19/2021 6:32:18 PM PDT by Cboldt
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One of the explanations is the insane laws that California has with regards to tractor trailers, in addition to the lack of folks that can drive them.


4 posted on 10/19/2021 6:32:18 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: MAGA2017

How about D...
Longshoreman work slowdown


5 posted on 10/19/2021 6:32:29 PM PDT by joe fonebone (bush league chamber of commerce worshiping republiCAN'Ts are the enemy)
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The 18 wheelers Do Not
meet California’s
Emission Standards.


6 posted on 10/19/2021 6:33:02 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Make His Paths Straight!)
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To: MAGA2017

Multiple factors

I believe the biggest one is probably not ebough long haul truckers

Companies that need their peouct delivered are sniping off truckers from other jobs they already had on the books by paying them more to go and deliver their goods instead

I hear it from every business I regularly buy from, I know the store owners and talk with them about what they are experiencing, because its affecting their inventories


7 posted on 10/19/2021 6:33:38 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Sundance had a big article saying it was because California mandated trucks less than three years old for pollution.


8 posted on 10/19/2021 6:33:58 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown
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Multiple factors. The new container ships haul more containers and take longer to unload.

The longshoreman only work certain hours.

Trucking isn’t the issue. Truckers are waiting hours to get loaded.


9 posted on 10/19/2021 6:37:19 PM PDT by meatloaf
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If it’s the 2011 or newer trucks, why don’t they cycle to the state line, transfer the load and go back for more?


10 posted on 10/19/2021 6:37:41 PM PDT by McGavin999 (To shut down the border tell the administration the cartel is smuggling Ivermectin )
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1. Trump.
2. Trump supporters.
3. The unvaccinated.
4. Peter Ducey of Fox News.
11 posted on 10/19/2021 6:38:52 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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If you want the shipping FIXED, LET NON UNION TRUCK DRIVERS W/RIGS OLDER THAN 2013 WORK.

12 posted on 10/19/2021 6:39:17 PM PDT by conservative98
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One of the things no one talks about much is that the newer cargo ships—some launched recently—carry about 25-30% more cargo. Obviously, this takes 25-30% longer to unload. You toss three or four o those into the mix and you have backlogs.

Plus if you don’t expand crane capacity to unload ships, you aren’t going to catch up by moving stuff out of the ports faster.

In the midst of Covid in China there were literally hundreds of thousands of containers sitting around Shanghai. Resources were coming in…but nothing was going out. Fast forward a year and those containers are all coming back, full of stuff.

It’s going to take a while before the system isn’t being jerked about.


13 posted on 10/19/2021 6:40:34 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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One cause would be the lack of commercial trucks to take the goods out of the port. California colluded with the EPA to reduce the number of trucks available to haul goods.


14 posted on 10/19/2021 6:41:06 PM PDT by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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CARB Clean Burn and Particulate filtration

AB5 eliminating Independent Contractors, and yes Truckers

There is also a LAW Requiring you be a Long Shoreman Union Member to Pick up or drop off at California Ports.

There will be NO MORE TRUCKS going to the ports, that horse is dead, NOBODY IS COMING, you are on your own


15 posted on 10/19/2021 6:41:07 PM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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DeSantis said they’re welcome to unload in FL. Getting there might be a problem considering the size of the barges. When we cruised through the Panama Canal we were told only the smaller ships could get through.

I’d love to see the look on Newsome’s face if the ships all turned around and headed for FL. I expect DeSantis allows trucks older than three years to transport in the state, unlike Gavin.


16 posted on 10/19/2021 6:41:19 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty. Don't forget his cohort)
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A dependence on China’s crap plus stimulus bucks plus a lack of foresight in terms of shipping glut plus all the other stuff you mention. Perfect storm, but I am content nevertheless. I know Who is in control.


17 posted on 10/19/2021 6:41:24 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (No nation that sanctions the wholesale slaughter of its unborn citizens is fit to endure.)
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> A) environmental California trucking regulations from the California Air Resources Board which mandates all trucks must be 2011 or newer. <

I’ve read that the regulations are so strict that most trucks made before 2018 cannot comply.


18 posted on 10/19/2021 6:41:29 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: McGavin999

Good question.


19 posted on 10/19/2021 6:42:54 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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Crap made in the USA isn’t sitting on a cargo ship.


20 posted on 10/19/2021 6:44:32 PM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven )
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