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Federal Judge Rules Against Natural Immunity Claim Challenging COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate
The Epoch Times ^ | 10/1/21 | Jack Phillips

Posted on 10/10/2021 7:21:28 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

A federal judge on Oct. 8 denied a request to block Michigan State University’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate on the basis of natural immunity.

An employee at the school, Jeanna Norris, filed a lawsuit against the mandate and asked a judge to intervene on the basis that she had already contracted COVID-19 and recovered. She presented two antibody tests showing her previous infection, and her doctors told her that she didn’t need to get the vaccine at this time.

Despite her natural immunity, Norris faces termination from the university for not complying with the school’s mandate that all students and staff get the shot unless they have a medical or religious exemption.

U.S. District Judge Paul Maloney, an appointee of former President George W. Bush, declined her lawsuit. The mandate, Maloney said, didn’t violate her fundamental rights and pointed to a 1905 Supreme Court ruling.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Jacobson v. Massachusetts (1905) had NOTHING to do with natural immunity. The judge ruled on forced vaccinations based on religious first amendment rights.

Jacobson v. Massachusetts (1905)
Jacobson argued that the smallpox vaccination law not only infringed on his religious liberty but also was arbitrary and capricious. The Court disagreed, writing that Jacobson’s individual right must give way to the “common good.”

https://mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1824/jacobson-v-massachusetts
21 posted on 10/10/2021 7:40:44 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: ronnie raygun
"the system is broken"

Yep. It's been broken for a long time unfortunately, and I don't think it will ever be fixed.

22 posted on 10/10/2021 7:53:08 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Captain Walker

Well said.


23 posted on 10/10/2021 7:58:13 PM PDT by Flick Lives ("Let's go, Brandon!")
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To: Captain Walker

good post!


24 posted on 10/10/2021 8:01:17 PM PDT by Aria
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To: Blood of Tyrants

One would think that natural immunity from prior Covid infection would count as a medical exemption.


25 posted on 10/10/2021 8:03:52 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Valpal1

The judge doesn’t think so. And I’ll bet his ruling is overturned because the 1905 case he cites has nothing to do with medical exemption due to natural immunity.


26 posted on 10/10/2021 8:08:06 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (When elections fail, we will either live under tyranny or rebel and throw it off.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

If you could show that receiving a vaccine subsequent to having covid, reduced the natural immunity, you might have a case that a judge could consider.


27 posted on 10/10/2021 8:13:18 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Flick Lives

He got his saline. He now presses the poison.


28 posted on 10/10/2021 8:20:46 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

This was pushing for a preliminary injunction to rule against the mandates altogether.
Judge said “Experts on both sides, tie goes to CDC guidance for now.”

I think the law firm screwed up, they could’ve had studies from Harvard and the New England Journal of Medicine, among others.


29 posted on 10/10/2021 8:21:15 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ((The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.))
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To: DannyTN
You're joking right?
Natural immunity is ALWAYS more effective then man made drugs. you're immunity system attacks the variants the drugs attack the specific viral protein it was designed against. It will have a very weak affect on variants if any at all.

If this isn't common knowledge it should be
30 posted on 10/10/2021 8:22:00 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Robert DeLong

“Appointed by George W. Bush”

And rhymes with baloney.

Coincidence?


31 posted on 10/10/2021 8:23:41 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Critical Marx Theory is The SOLUTION....)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Resist, refuse and solidarity are the few hopes we have left.


32 posted on 10/10/2021 8:24:44 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.I ha)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Natural immunity is ALWAYS more effective then man made drugs.

That’s too general a statement. Example - rabies.

33 posted on 10/10/2021 8:25:28 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Steve Van Doorn

I don’t think you understood my post.

If you have natural immunity and you then get a vaccine, does that in any way eliminate, replace or reduce the natural immunity that you already had? Because if it doesn’t then I don’t see this judge being overruled.

Since the 1905 SCOTUS ruling eliminated the possibility of a religious exemption. And this judges ruling used the 1905 ruling to eliminate an exemption for natural immunity. Then the only way that I see you get a court to reverse that ruling, is by showing the vaccine actually reduces immunity for those already recovered.

It’s possible to make a case that since natural immunity is better than vaccine immunity, that the risks of taking the vaccine are unnecessary. But I’m guessing that was argued in this case and the judge didn’t buy it.


34 posted on 10/10/2021 8:29:49 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Flick Lives

The judge is kicking the can down the road and KNOWS this asshattery will be overturned.

Good that he’s done it using a case with virtually nothing to do with the controversy before the court.


35 posted on 10/10/2021 8:30:05 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Fury

rabies doesn’t mutate into new variants. Apples and oranges


36 posted on 10/10/2021 8:30:08 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: DannyTN

Nope

But if you had a judge that actually followed Jacobson Vrs Mass instead of interpreted it to fit their own bias, you wouldn’t need one

Jacobson Vrs Mass specifically sites the ruling based on a state legislated mandate. The Judge ignored the bulk of the SC decision to focus on two lines. Exactly what a political activist looking for a rational to end run the law would do.

Jacobson vrs Mass is absolutely inapplicable to a mandate imposed by Executive decree.


37 posted on 10/10/2021 8:32:03 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: DannyTN
said, "replace or reduce the natural immunity that you already had?"

yes.
replaces.
38 posted on 10/10/2021 8:33:18 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Not according to The Phaser! LOL

https://thephaser.com/2021/09/doomsday-virus-discovery-of-rabies-mutation-might-end-humanity/


39 posted on 10/10/2021 8:33:42 PM PDT by Fury
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To: DannyTN

Again you are twisting Jacobson Vr Mass to mean something it clearly does not.

The case specifically sites state legislative action as the underlying justification for its decision. It specifically sites the Courts deference to that legislative action.


40 posted on 10/10/2021 8:38:48 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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