[FlipWilson]

Clearly, the CDC is anti-science.

Wonder when the pivot for blaming Trump for the vaccines will start?

[SeekAndFind]

Is it possible the newly published report that discounts the effectiveness of the vaccines was a sign that Biden is looking for an opportunity to lock down the country? As we have seen in the U.S. COVID cases trend, it reached a peak in early January 2021. Then it started to make a rapid decline until early July, when the delta variant became the predominant one. Right now, in mid-September, the trend looks to have peaked again and is starting to decline.

SEE HERE:



Would the delta variant follow the same behavior as the original? If that trend holds, there will be no need to push for a vaccination mandate. But who knows what is going to happen when we enter the winter season? The vaccines are not as effective as they were advertised. The new variant could be deadlier than the delta, and vaccine-resistant. Biden would have no choice but to push a national lockdown when the third wave starts, as we have seen in Israel. And he has the incentive to do that for the coming 2022 midterm elections.

[Diogenesis]

the CDC makes up data, and censors other, as it goes
along to suit its genocidal and political and
financial purposes.

the CDC would EAGERLY make Agent Orange a vitamin
for nursing mothers, if it had the patent
or was paid a few coins of silver from the CCP.

[taxcontrol]

Wow, the amount of double speak, obfuscation and out right lies from this administration is just .... overwhelming.

[Socon-Econ]

What matters more is the ratio of GENUINE cases to vaccinated and unvaccinated.

[frank ballenger]

Unable to avoid them, I sometimes hear “public service” government propaganda jab ads on the radio.

Now shouldn’t they be stopped for being fraudulent and stating false promises? You aren’t supposed to lie in an ad. “Our new model car will last forever.” “You will find a man to marry you if you wear our lipstick.” “Our supplements cure arthritis within ten days.”

So it’s not “I care about my loved ones and my friends and neighbors so I got the vaccinations to stop Covid. Get the shots and be safe. A lot of people depend on you.”

Now “get the shots and have moderately effective, short term possible immunity unless it doesn’t work or causes you terrible health problems first. A message from the CDC and this radio station.”

[1Old Pro]

Maybe they should be acquiring the overall health stats of those hospitalized and see if they can find a common thread, like obesity. Then, for the past year they could have been advising obese people to diet.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

If you want to die of COVID, run to a hospital the minute you get it.

[Brian Griffin]

It should be realized that the vaccines won’t work well in around 6% of the 65+ folks because their immune systems are weak.

The 65+ folks that get Covid are the most likely to need hospitalization.

What the CDC is selling is what Joe B. is selling: booster shots.

[Karl Spooner]

Project Veritas - Part 1

[Antoninus]

Sounds to me like the truth dam is starting to crack. Is it possible that there are still a few honest people in government? Enough to make a difference? Hard to believe.

[butlerweave]

Face it the CDC never tells the truth , they’re just for propaganda now

[the OlLine Rebel]

The real issue is the success the commie wannabes have had. They act like and people believe (mostly statist Dems) that this disease is highly deadly.

False premise, as usual for Dems.

Recent surveys revealed Dems really think this is very dangerous. If it was as dangerous as they think, I’d take the shots!

[Brian Griffin]

Vaccine history has said:

“Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective.”

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-duration-protection.html

One childhood vaccine[DTaP] is scheduled to be given five times.

Three childhood vaccines are scheduled to be given four times.

~10% immunization failure rate for two-dose polio vaccine
~6% immunization failure rate for two-dose Covid vaccine

[oldtech]

The story I got was that VAERS was about 100% understated.

[LostInBayport]

The Boston Glob lists daily covid numbers. These are the latest.

Hospitalized patients: 641

Hospitalized patients who are fully vaccinated: 215

One third of hospitalizations are "fully vaccinated" patients, yet the media makes it seem like only the unvaxxed get admitted

[maddog55]

[Brian Griffin]

Chickenpox vaccination can have bad side effects too:

“Sore arm from the injection, redness or rash where the shot is given, or fever can happen after varicella vaccination.

“More serious reactions happen very rarely. These can include pneumonia, infection of the brain and/or spinal cord covering, or seizures that are often associated with fever.

....

“Some people who are vaccinated against chickenpox get shingles (herpes zoster) years later. This is much less common after vaccination than after chickenpox disease.

“there is a very remote chance of a vaccine causing a severe allergic reaction, other serious injury, or death.”

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/vis/vis-statements/varicella.html

As TV lawyer commercials have noted, prescription drugs can have nasty side effects and can even cause death. Posters on freerepublic don’t wage war against prescription drugs on a daily basis.

[livius]

Even the flu vaccines are only about 60% effective, and some people have bad reactions to them...I think I’ve gotten maybe one or two, and I had the flu that year with one of them.

These covid “vaccines” are about the same, because that type of virus mutates all the time and in addition, unless you do a detailed analysis, you really can’t differentiate. A rapid test is not detailed. So who knows?

Also, several hospitals and research groups came out last week saying that the Covid stats have to be cut by about 40%, since most of the people died of other things, such as long standing heart or COPD problems, or immediate things ranging from accidents to other diseases they already had (such as cancer). They may have tested positive for Covid but they were either asymptomatic or they had minor symptoms that had nothing to do with their deaths but were opportunistic infections that an already dying immune system cannot fight.

I don’t think these vaccines are as dire as people are making them sound, but the thing is that the disease is not that dire either. Most people survive just fine. The vaccine may lessen your risk of dying, but it’s not necessarily going to prevent you from getting it.

So you’ve got to weigh your options, and people should have the freedom and responsibility to do that.

But freedom and responsibility are so yesterday.

[immadashell]

One hell of a good “vaccine”. Let me know when someone develops a real vaccine.