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Vaccine effectiveness limited, says CDC: "[T]he ratio of hospitalizations to cases was moderately lower among fully vaccinated compared with unvaccinated"
American Thinker ^ | 09/21/2021 | Andy Zhao

Posted on 09/21/2021 8:30:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Just a week ago, a CDC study prompted MSM headlines such as  "New study finds unvaccinated are 11 times more likely to die from Covid, CDC says."  Last Friday, the CDC published the latest MMWR report, which stated, "Real-world studies of population-level vaccine effectiveness against laboratory-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection and COVID-19 hospitalizations are limited in the United States."  Later in the same report it revealed some details: "[t]he ratio of hospitalizations to cases was moderately lower among fully vaccinated (13.3 hospitalizations per 100 cases) compared with unvaccinated (17.1 hospitalizations per 100 cases) groups" under the delta variant dominant environment.  Yes, that's 13.3 vs. 17.1, a mere 22% less in hospitalization over the unvaccinated, not >10X. 

What is going on?

The previous report was propaganda for the vaccination campaign by the Biden administration.  That report used non-representative "data assessed from 13 jurisdictions accounted for 25% of the U.S. population."  The report cautioned that its conclusion "might not be generalizable," but it still suggests that "[t]he data might be helpful in communicating the real-time impact of vaccines (e.g., persons not fully vaccinated having >10 times higher COVID-19 mortality risk) and guiding prevention strategies such as vaccination and nonpharmacologic interventions.  What was the message the CDC wanted to "communicate"?  It's this:


Figure 1.

So convincing and exciting!  That must be the good reason for everybody to get the wonder vaccines!  If you are still hesitating, President Biden shames you and issues mandates to force you take the jab!  The MSM started the narrative about "the pandemic of the unvaccinated" in coordination with the Biden administration.

Now the CDC suddenly makes a 180-degree turn and publishes a study to show that the vaccines are not so effective.  Could it be just the truth or something else?


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cdcvaccines; effectiveness; hospitalization
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To: Brian Griffin

I look at it like this....

CornPop, Fauci, Birx, Collins, Walensky, et al, tell you to put on this cream before you go swimming in the ocean and you won’t get attacked by sharks.

Some people put on the cream, some don’t. People who use the cream go in the ocean, aren’t attacked by a shark.....See the cream works. Does it mean that the cream works or there were no sharks around?

Then one day there are folks that use the cream and those that don’t in the ocean. Some folks get attacked by sharks. Some with the cream, some without...It’s because all of you that don’t use the cream that we’re all being attacked.

No way of knowing who is doing what, who is causing what, but it’s easy for the powers that be to point the finger at those that aren’t falling in line. Great scam they have going on.


41 posted on 09/21/2021 9:09:13 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Jeff Chandler

Better place to be after all this nonsense.

I’m sure folks have been able to do wonders, at the smoker and/or grill, with all this time at home.


42 posted on 09/21/2021 9:10:07 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Brian Griffin

RE: “Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective.”

This Ph.D. in Molecular Biology who has actually worked with vaccines and has worked with mRNA technology, Dr. Christina Parks, EXPLAINS what the word — effectiveness means.

She says that the vaccine mandates are based on the FAULTY ASSUMPTION that the vaccines prevent infection and transmission of Covid.

The vaccines were NEVER DESIGNED to prevent infection or transmission ( she says ).

The 95% effectiveness are measuring whether they “attenuate” symptoms.... BUT ONLY FOR THE ORIGINAL Coronavirus, which is ESSENTIALLY GONE from our population. What we now have is the DELTA VARIANT, which is the predominant one.

WATCH HER 8 MINUTE PRESENTATION HERE:

https://youtu.be/x6Fx3r4mh-A

It DOES NOT MEAN


43 posted on 09/21/2021 9:10:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

44 posted on 09/21/2021 9:11:52 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: LostInBayport

RE: One third of hospitalizations are “fully vaccinated” patients

OK, that means 2/3 of hospitalizations are UNVACCINATED or maybe PARTIALLY VACCINATED.

There’s an argument to be made then that vaccination ( FULL ), helps somewhat to prevent hospitalizations, but don’t get your hopes up too high.


45 posted on 09/21/2021 9:13:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Chickenpox vaccination can have bad side effects too:

“Sore arm from the injection, redness or rash where the shot is given, or fever can happen after varicella vaccination.

“More serious reactions happen very rarely. These can include pneumonia, infection of the brain and/or spinal cord covering, or seizures that are often associated with fever.

....

“Some people who are vaccinated against chickenpox get shingles (herpes zoster) years later. This is much less common after vaccination than after chickenpox disease.

“there is a very remote chance of a vaccine causing a severe allergic reaction, other serious injury, or death.”

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/vis/vis-statements/varicella.html

As TV lawyer commercials have noted, prescription drugs can have nasty side effects and can even cause death. Posters on freerepublic don’t wage war against prescription drugs on a daily basis.


46 posted on 09/21/2021 9:15:40 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: SeekAndFind
Here's not highly vaxxed, mostly maskless Missouri

We're well over the delta hump. WU variant ought to be along soon.

47 posted on 09/21/2021 9:17:26 AM PDT by Pollard (Some people like to argue just to argue.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Agreed. The point I was making is that the actual numbers run counter to the media narrative, and the narrative propounded by many FReepers here who claim to be medical professionals. That narrative is “pandemic of the unvaxxed and only the unvaxxed” and these numbers show that slogan is just not true.


48 posted on 09/21/2021 9:20:31 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: SeekAndFind

The word I heard was that the VAERS reports were understated by a factor of at least 100. That sounds like a lot more problems with the vaccines than would normally be allowed. There is a possibility of MANY reasons for this, but who wants to be a guinea pig for some company’s profits? There’s plenty of that going around already.


49 posted on 09/21/2021 9:20:36 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: Pollard

RE: Here’s not highly vaxxed, mostly maskless Missouri

Can we put the Missouri chart side by side with highly vaxxed New York ( about 65% FULL VAXXED )?


50 posted on 09/21/2021 9:20:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Even the flu vaccines are only about 60% effective, and some people have bad reactions to them...I think I’ve gotten maybe one or two, and I had the flu that year with one of them.

These covid “vaccines” are about the same, because that type of virus mutates all the time and in addition, unless you do a detailed analysis, you really can’t differentiate. A rapid test is not detailed. So who knows?

Also, several hospitals and research groups came out last week saying that the Covid stats have to be cut by about 40%, since most of the people died of other things, such as long standing heart or COPD problems, or immediate things ranging from accidents to other diseases they already had (such as cancer). They may have tested positive for Covid but they were either asymptomatic or they had minor symptoms that had nothing to do with their deaths but were opportunistic infections that an already dying immune system cannot fight.

I don’t think these vaccines are as dire as people are making them sound, but the thing is that the disease is not that dire either. Most people survive just fine. The vaccine may lessen your risk of dying, but it’s not necessarily going to prevent you from getting it.

So you’ve got to weigh your options, and people should have the freedom and responsibility to do that.

But freedom and responsibility are so yesterday.


51 posted on 09/21/2021 9:20:49 AM PDT by livius (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

One hell of a good “vaccine”. Let me know when someone develops a real vaccine.


52 posted on 09/21/2021 9:21:53 AM PDT by immadashell (New Planned Parenthood slogan: Black Babies’ Lives Don't Matter!c)
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To: SeekAndFind

the absolute difference between vaxxed and unvaxxed in hospitalizations/hundred-cases is only 4%, namely 14% vs 17% ...


53 posted on 09/21/2021 9:26:26 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The above items are becoming quite obvious to many people who should know — HEALTHCARE WORKERS and even those working for the government.”

and those with advanced educational levels such as PhDs ...


54 posted on 09/21/2021 9:27:53 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Something else.

It’s a modified limited hangout.


55 posted on 09/21/2021 9:31:36 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: Brian Griffin

Yes, but in addition, the remaining 94% of the unvaccinated 65+ will lack any level Covid vaccine protection.

absolutely untrue...GFY
you have no shame.


56 posted on 09/21/2021 9:32:32 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: SeekAndFind

“She says that the vaccine mandates are based on the FAULTY ASSUMPTION that the vaccines prevent infection and transmission of Covid.”

prevent - only ~94% true
help prevent - true

Covid vaccination enabled the Florida economy to spring back to vitality.

She’s correct, but just because Covid vaccination has been overrated by Brian Griffin, Joe Biden and other Democrats does not mean it is not worthwhile.

Areas in India now have herd immunity thanks to vigorous vaccination campaigns.

Policing doesn’t totally prevent crime.

Policing helps prevent crime.

Covid vaccination doesn’t totally prevent death/hospitalization/disease spread.

Covid vaccination helps prevent death/hospitalization/disease spread(when vaccination rates are high enough for herd immunity).

One comes in blue uniforms, the other in vials.


57 posted on 09/21/2021 9:35:55 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/08/exclusive-80-percent-of-covid-19-deaths-in-august-were-people-who-had-been-vaccinated/

in uk 80 % of deaths in august were vaccinated...


58 posted on 09/21/2021 9:37:25 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: qaz123

“The FLCCC Alliance has always maintained that our protocols are a bridge to vaccines and a safety net for those who cannot or have not been vaccinated or are...”

https://covid19criticalcare.com

The Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance that has been pushing Ivermectin supports vaccination.


59 posted on 09/21/2021 9:40:40 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: Brian Griffin

Interesting. I reached out to them and then followed the link to PushHealth. Basically wanted to get my own ZIVERDO Pack or two, to have on hand.

Put me in touch with someone, who ended up being a NP or something like that, able to write a prescription. She wouldn’t write me the prescription stating that she would write it for off-label use. Which is why I was on the site to begin with and it’s the one that linked me with her.


60 posted on 09/21/2021 9:44:29 AM PDT by qaz123
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