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Vaccine effectiveness limited, says CDC: "[T]he ratio of hospitalizations to cases was moderately lower among fully vaccinated compared with unvaccinated"
American Thinker ^ | 09/21/2021 | Andy Zhao

Posted on 09/21/2021 8:30:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Just a week ago, a CDC study prompted MSM headlines such as  "New study finds unvaccinated are 11 times more likely to die from Covid, CDC says."  Last Friday, the CDC published the latest MMWR report, which stated, "Real-world studies of population-level vaccine effectiveness against laboratory-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection and COVID-19 hospitalizations are limited in the United States."  Later in the same report it revealed some details: "[t]he ratio of hospitalizations to cases was moderately lower among fully vaccinated (13.3 hospitalizations per 100 cases) compared with unvaccinated (17.1 hospitalizations per 100 cases) groups" under the delta variant dominant environment.  Yes, that's 13.3 vs. 17.1, a mere 22% less in hospitalization over the unvaccinated, not >10X. 

What is going on?

The previous report was propaganda for the vaccination campaign by the Biden administration.  That report used non-representative "data assessed from 13 jurisdictions accounted for 25% of the U.S. population."  The report cautioned that its conclusion "might not be generalizable," but it still suggests that "[t]he data might be helpful in communicating the real-time impact of vaccines (e.g., persons not fully vaccinated having >10 times higher COVID-19 mortality risk) and guiding prevention strategies such as vaccination and nonpharmacologic interventions.  What was the message the CDC wanted to "communicate"?  It's this:


Figure 1.

So convincing and exciting!  That must be the good reason for everybody to get the wonder vaccines!  If you are still hesitating, President Biden shames you and issues mandates to force you take the jab!  The MSM started the narrative about "the pandemic of the unvaccinated" in coordination with the Biden administration.

Now the CDC suddenly makes a 180-degree turn and publishes a study to show that the vaccines are not so effective.  Could it be just the truth or something else?


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cdcvaccines; effectiveness; hospitalization
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1 posted on 09/21/2021 8:30:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Clearly, the CDC is anti-science.

Wonder when the pivot for blaming Trump for the vaccines will start?


2 posted on 09/21/2021 8:32:58 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: SeekAndFind
Is it possible the newly published report that discounts the effectiveness of the vaccines was a sign that Biden is looking for an opportunity to lock down the country? As we have seen in the U.S. COVID cases trend, it reached a peak in early January 2021. Then it started to make a rapid decline until early July, when the delta variant became the predominant one. Right now, in mid-September, the trend looks to have peaked again and is starting to decline.

SEE HERE:



Would the delta variant follow the same behavior as the original? If that trend holds, there will be no need to push for a vaccination mandate. But who knows what is going to happen when we enter the winter season? The vaccines are not as effective as they were advertised. The new variant could be deadlier than the delta, and vaccine-resistant. Biden would have no choice but to push a national lockdown when the third wave starts, as we have seen in Israel. And he has the incentive to do that for the coming 2022 midterm elections.
3 posted on 09/21/2021 8:33:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: FlipWilson

Maybe it’s just me but I think they’re setting us up for more lockdowns


4 posted on 09/21/2021 8:33:58 AM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house.... But the fact checkers said thein story was false!)
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To: SeekAndFind

the CDC makes up data, and censors other, as it goes
along to suit its genocidal and political and
financial purposes.

the CDC would EAGERLY make Agent Orange a vitamin
for nursing mothers, if it had the patent
or was paid a few coins of silver from the CCP.


5 posted on 09/21/2021 8:34:13 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow, the amount of double speak, obfuscation and out right lies from this administration is just .... overwhelming.


6 posted on 09/21/2021 8:37:19 AM PDT by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What matters more is the ratio of GENUINE cases to vaccinated and unvaccinated.


7 posted on 09/21/2021 8:37:25 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: SeekAndFind

Unable to avoid them, I sometimes hear “public service” government propaganda jab ads on the radio.

Now shouldn’t they be stopped for being fraudulent and stating false promises? You aren’t supposed to lie in an ad. “Our new model car will last forever.” “You will find a man to marry you if you wear our lipstick.” “Our supplements cure arthritis within ten days.”

So it’s not “I care about my loved ones and my friends and neighbors so I got the vaccinations to stop Covid. Get the shots and be safe. A lot of people depend on you.”

Now “get the shots and have moderately effective, short term possible immunity unless it doesn’t work or causes you terrible health problems first. A message from the CDC and this radio station.”


8 posted on 09/21/2021 8:37:51 AM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: Diogenesis

As the big picture begins to sharpen on the COVID pandemic, a few things are beginning to emerge.



The above items are becoming quite obvious to many people who should know -- HEALTHCARE WORKERS and even those working for the government.

Fauci's NIAID had declined to be vaccinated.  A Forbes article noted that "[t]he unvaccinated include nearly 1 in 3 workers at the nation's 50 largest hospitals."

9 posted on 09/21/2021 8:38:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Socon-Econ

RE: What matters more is the ratio of GENUINE cases to vaccinated and unvaccinated.

Can you elaborate more on what you mean by GENUINE?


10 posted on 09/21/2021 8:38:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: FlipWilson

Exactly why he needs to start distancing himself from them and start heaping praise on CornPop and his efforts.

If they do end up saving the world, he can always talk about his removing the regs and barriers to bring about Warp Speed.

If it all goes South, then it’s all on CornPop on the rest for pushing these things.

Is that political? Absolutely. But the Left started it and it’s time to play their games and shove it in their faces.


11 posted on 09/21/2021 8:41:14 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: frank ballenger

When the government lies it is “for our own good”.

That was the “noble lie” theory of politics which the elites embrace.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_lie

Check out the passage on Leo Strauss—he was a major influence of folks like Bill Kristol...

That is one reason these folks hate Donald Trump. Donald Trump shined a bright light on their “noble lies”.


12 posted on 09/21/2021 8:41:34 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: SeekAndFind
U.S. COVID cases . . . reached a peak in early January 2021

Yep, that's when I and my entire extended family got it. The worst any of us suffered was like a moderate cold.

13 posted on 09/21/2021 8:42:12 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: FlipWilson

The CDC continues to use different metrics for vaccinated vs unvaccinated. They continue to use the 164 million “vaccinated” divided by cases number instead of exposure/confirmed case number like they do with the unvaccinated.....

We could use a 300 million number for the unvaccinated and divide deaths from there and flip the script.


14 posted on 09/21/2021 8:42:42 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: FlipWilson

When they pivot you know they don’t work as advertised or shilled.


15 posted on 09/21/2021 8:43:00 AM PDT by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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To: SeekAndFind

The vaccine doesn’t work for its stated purpose. It doesn’t prevent infection


Brother/Sister, you’re about to unleash the FR Hounds of Hell and Vaccines with that statement. I wish you luck.


16 posted on 09/21/2021 8:44:11 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe they should be acquiring the overall health stats of those hospitalized and see if they can find a common thread, like obesity. Then, for the past year they could have been advising obese people to diet.


17 posted on 09/21/2021 8:45:17 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: SeekAndFind

If you want to die of COVID, run to a hospital the minute you get it.


18 posted on 09/21/2021 8:46:10 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: SeekAndFind

It should be realized that the vaccines won’t work well in around 6% of the 65+ folks because their immune systems are weak.

The 65+ folks that get Covid are the most likely to need hospitalization.

What the CDC is selling is what Joe B. is selling: booster shots.


19 posted on 09/21/2021 8:46:33 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ( )
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Project Veritas - Part 1

20 posted on 09/21/2021 8:47:08 AM PDT by Karl Spooner
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