I start with two questions:
1) Is it 100% remote? If no, no need for the second question.
2) What does it pay?
If companies mandate masks, they will find it harder to fill positions and will be under more pressure to pay well and to be vocal about their generous salaries.
Well, you’re a blogger.
What do YOU make?
You kind of suck at it, so...
Maybe sixteen bucks a week?
The number one rule of HR is you don’t want employees knowing the salaries of other employees.
It’s actually a firing offense.
When you advertise the pay, you are telling the existing employees what the new employee is going to be paid.
Government is the only entity that posts salary ranges, and that’s because when you work for the government your salary is public information.
I’ve been on many job interviews and applied for many jobs over the years. I’ve gone on interviews when i had a job I liked, and was looking to make a career move. And I’ve gone on interviews when I was unemployed and eager to get a job.
If you are currently employed and like the job and seeking a career move, they can’t give you lowball offers, because you will just stay in your current job instead.
But if you are unemployed and can’t be as choosy about offers you would accept, that’s when you may take the job that doesn’t pay as well as you would like.
There is no reason to ascribe larceny to the company interviewer. In some cases, the applicant is being initially interviewed to find out which, of several, slots they might fit. The final offer could be for a project lead, a manager, or an individual contributor.
Your initial interviewer probably knows which slots are to be filled, but probably has no idea which you might be offered. They may not be the one to make that decision.
Go ahead and push real hard. If you are viewed as uncooperative you can talk yourself out of any slots. Instead, be pleasant as you try to find out where you might stand.
I am old. I have never interviewed for a job where the pay wasn’t mentioned up front. Is this a new thing or is it restricted to certain types of jobs?
Honestly, I wouldn’t go if I didn’t know how much it paid.
As I read on the back of an airline magazine once, “You don’t get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate.”
When I was young, I went through 6 months of interviews for a company...
At the last interview, they asked me how much I make. When I told her, she said, “ we are not paying that much to a guy without a masters degree...
I stood up, and at the top of my lungs screamed, then why are you wasting my time...
This company went out of business less than a year later...
First thing in an interview, I tell them what my payscale will be, and how much vacation time I expect...
This sorts out the losers from the pack
I have been successful when asked for a salary range, I reply that I don’t want to waste my time or theirs on the past.
Colorado requires the pay be included in job listings. However, the down side is that some firms are no longer seaking in Colorado.
https://www.businessinsider.com/firms-reject-colorado-workers-due-to-new-salary-law-2021-6?op=1
Have a hard time convincing myself to read an article by something named a “Whizy Kim”...
Although, based on the title, I’m shocked...
Back when (1940’s, 1950s, 1960s) I applied for a job, the salary, or salary range, was always listed up front...
After 1967, I never “applied” for a job again...
So when did this “hide the salary” stuff begin to happen?
I liked it even more when the job offer bumped up the salary a couple G's.
And there's no discussion over vaxxing...my kind of place.
A recent cartoon in the Wall Street Journal hits home with this thread. The job applicant is asked to sign a NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) before being interviewed for the job!
When I think of all of the years I worked in the private sector without once even hearing of an NDA or knowing its existence! What is this world that we are handing on to these following generations?
In tech positions in demand, it’s the first thing discussed. Period. They want to know if they can afford you, and they can read linkedin.
You want to know whether to bother interviewing.
Every job I ever interviewed for asked me what pay range I was expecting. Some sessions were short
At least you got a job interview. Most companies (especially engineering companies) place want ads but have no intention to hire. I can mention them all but I won’t. All they are interested in are resumes to fill their database.
If you want to know the salary up front it means you are to immature to work anything other than menial jobs.
The salary dance is like any other negotiation.
Onky grown-ups need apply.
They generally ask what I am currently making on the application. So expected salary going into an interview should be something enough to entice me to leave my current job.
Years ago, when I worked in the computer chip industry, I accidentally discovered that the HR departments from the three largest manufacturers in my state, were sharing their wage and salary information with each other - but NOT with the people who were applying for jobs or who already worked there.
They all basically agreed to follow a three tiered system where the most elite manufacturer paid the most, then a tier for the second best company, and a tier for the third.
That looked blatantly illegal to me, but when I cautiously inquired with two lawyers, I was told it was completely legal at the time.