Posted on 07/30/2021 3:24:41 PM PDT by grundle
Once, at the end of a long job interview, after discussing everything else under the sun, I asked the interviewer what the pay range was for the position. Her lips thinned; she was clearly offended. She said it wasn’t something the company was comfortable sharing.
As frustrating as her response was, it was also typical. Anyone who has ever looked for a job probably has experience with companies being cagey about pay. But often we accept it as the way the negotiation game is played, like it’s a dance you’ve got to know the steps to. The problem is that companies and job applicants aren’t standing on an even playing field. One side — the employer — usually has a lot more information, and therefore leverage, in figuring out how to pay as little as they can to recruit the most talented candidate they can find.
Sometimes, you might not have a good idea of what the role might pay until you’ve gone through several interviews, maybe after you’ve already dedicated time and effort into a sample project or presentation to prove your qualifications. Even if you get a rough idea of salary (or share your own salary expectations) during an initial screening, that comes after you’ve already crafted a cover letter and fine-tuned your résumé for this particular job opening. Any job seeker today knows how much time goes into submitting an application, let alone the rest of the job search process. We put ourselves through the job hunt gauntlet in hopes that an exciting, well-paying role might be waiting at the end. We have to deal with the so-called discomfort companies feel about pay transparency.
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Im not dyslexic. Long drive today and trying to chill out. It was a job, hr, and an interview that lead to an offer with salary in a few weeks.
Ask. And then dont tell anyone. Btw. I have been in the same profession at 3 different firms in 3 different states. I have never went into an interview without knowing pretty much what the job paid.
Good advice for anyone seeking a job. Unless you are trying to land your first job, or some other specific situations apply, then you should prepare yourself with education, training, and your own personal performance to be the person that the employer is desperate to hire.
I have hired plenty of people, and in almost every case for experienced people I was the one who had to work to convince the applicant to take the job. IF you take you career seriously and build up your skills and are a top level worker employers will be asking you how much money they need to pay to get you to work for them.
That is true in any field, whether you are designing computers, pouring cement, or selling cars.
The response will be:
“What is your expected salary range?”
HR is the worst department of every single company.
Have a hard time convincing myself to read an article by something named a “Whizy Kim”...
Although, based on the title, I’m shocked...
Back when (1940’s, 1950s, 1960s) I applied for a job, the salary, or salary range, was always listed up front...
After 1967, I never “applied” for a job again...
So when did this “hide the salary” stuff begin to happen?
I liked it even more when the job offer bumped up the salary a couple G's.
And there's no discussion over vaxxing...my kind of place.
Hate remote work. If 100% remote, I would tell them to stick it.
I think it is also because they want you to set an expectation first. That gives them a better starting point than just throwing out a number themselves.
Spoken like a collectivist goon.
Let me guess: you believe the primary purpose of any company is to provide well-paying jobs.
It’s always easier to get a job when you already have one.
To be fair, the HR departments are the places where all the woke crap originates.
A recent cartoon in the Wall Street Journal hits home with this thread. The job applicant is asked to sign a NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) before being interviewed for the job!
When I think of all of the years I worked in the private sector without once even hearing of an NDA or knowing its existence! What is this world that we are handing on to these following generations?
What the hell does that have to do with my post?
You must be HR, as you’re retarded.
Same here. I had to do it during the lock down and hated every second of it. Was so happy to get back. Now they’re talking about mando vaccination and I’m pretty sure I’ll be looking for another job.
In tech positions in demand, it’s the first thing discussed. Period. They want to know if they can afford you, and they can read linkedin.
You want to know whether to bother interviewing.
Every job I ever interviewed for asked me what pay range I was expecting. Some sessions were short
At least you got a job interview. Most companies (especially engineering companies) place want ads but have no intention to hire. I can mention them all but I won’t. All they are interested in are resumes to fill their database.
I have two offices in my house. During this remote work fiasco, I would work one week in the office downstairs, then one week in the master bedroom office with the nice views outside.
One day, I was in the bedroom office at about 6PM, finishing up work and I realized I had just spent almost 20 hours of the last 24 hours in the same room! How is that unlike a prison?
100% remote means a hut in an Indian village on the bank of the Yukon river with power generated by solar panels and no sun.
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