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Put The Salary In The Job Post, You Cowards
yahoo.com ^ | July 29, 2021 | Whizy Kim

Posted on 07/30/2021 3:24:41 PM PDT by grundle

Once, at the end of a long job interview, after discussing everything else under the sun, I asked the interviewer what the pay range was for the position. Her lips thinned; she was clearly offended. She said it wasn’t something the company was comfortable sharing.

As frustrating as her response was, it was also typical. Anyone who has ever looked for a job probably has experience with companies being cagey about pay. But often we accept it as the way the negotiation game is played, like it’s a dance you’ve got to know the steps to. The problem is that companies and job applicants aren’t standing on an even playing field. One side — the employer — usually has a lot more information, and therefore leverage, in figuring out how to pay as little as they can to recruit the most talented candidate they can find.

Sometimes, you might not have a good idea of what the role might pay until you’ve gone through several interviews, maybe after you’ve already dedicated time and effort into a sample project or presentation to prove your qualifications. Even if you get a rough idea of salary (or share your own salary expectations) during an initial screening, that comes after you’ve already crafted a cover letter and fine-tuned your résumé for this particular job opening. Any job seeker today knows how much time goes into submitting an application, let alone the rest of the job search process. We put ourselves through the job hunt gauntlet in hopes that an exciting, well-paying role might be waiting at the end. We have to deal with the so-called discomfort companies feel about pay transparency.

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To: Codeflier

Mine was directly opposite... I had a very hard time getting anything done because I needed to be there physically. I was bored to tears!!!


41 posted on 07/30/2021 4:50:09 PM PDT by Mathews (It's all gravy, baby!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Government is the only entity that posts salary ranges, and that’s because when you work for the government your salary is public information.

I can tell you this is not true at my place of work. Open positions are posted with a salary grade and there is a table which shoes the low, mid, and high salary for each grade. Granted, for some positions the range for a Grade is pretty wide.


42 posted on 07/30/2021 4:50:24 PM PDT by Flick Lives (We may or may not have reached herd immunity, but we've definitely achieved herd stupidity.)
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To: bhl

>> Why waste your and their time?<<

Don’t you want that free steak dinner in the Petroleum Club in Houston with Drambuie after?


43 posted on 07/30/2021 4:53:40 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: SES1066
The job applicant is asked to sign a NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) before being interviewed for the job!

It isn’t that uncommon if private equity ownership is involved and they are looking to replace someone at the C-suite level. It could also be that they are at the due diligence and/or offering stage and want to ensure exclusivity on the deal.

44 posted on 07/30/2021 4:59:38 PM PDT by voicereason (The RNC is like the "one-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: grundle

If you want to know the salary up front it means you are to immature to work anything other than menial jobs.

The salary dance is like any other negotiation.

Onky grown-ups need apply.


45 posted on 07/30/2021 5:20:37 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The democrats have just replaced KKK with CRT. /Kevin McCarty 7/6/21)
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To: Lazamataz

New third question: is the Covid Vaccine Mandatory? ends the conversation right there.


46 posted on 07/30/2021 5:23:57 PM PDT by ZephyrTX
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To: Codeflier

I theoretically can work remotely but just about every day somebody will break something so I might as well show up.


47 posted on 07/30/2021 5:25:52 PM PDT by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: grundle

They generally ask what I am currently making on the application. So expected salary going into an interview should be something enough to entice me to leave my current job.


48 posted on 07/30/2021 5:42:30 PM PDT by IgnorerOfLiberals
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To: dragnet2

Usually there is a pay range which signifies the functional role you will be in.


49 posted on 07/30/2021 5:42:49 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (I got the shot. Not because I wanted to. Because I had to, in violation of my civil rights.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
...the primary purpose of any company is to provide well-paying jobs.

Absolutely correct.

Providing a useful product or service at a reasonable price in a free market is the means by which the company gains the funds for those well-paying jobs.

At least that is how it is supposed to work.

A company that does not provide well-paying jobs has a disposable or easily replaceable work force or is strip-mining the workforce in a liquidation economy. Most such companies will be destroyed by competitors - if there is a truly free market in goods, services, and labor.

Of course the larger companies do everything they can to impede any kind of free market in those things.

50 posted on 07/30/2021 5:50:25 PM PDT by flamberge (Time has run out. Work with what you've got.)
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To: flamberge

Putting the cart before the horse there, Skippy.

How many jobs have you created for other people with your company?


51 posted on 07/30/2021 5:51:27 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: Night Hides Not

I was on indeed the other day and most jobs do post the salary range. I thought most places did that. Yes, maybe not the exact amount is stated but the range usually is.


52 posted on 07/30/2021 6:08:47 PM PDT by ozaukeemom (9-11-01 Never Forget)
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To: dfwgator

When I interviewed for my current job, I asked for a very good salary and moved down to a good level. They start new employees at one week vacation. I negotiated to start with three weeks.


53 posted on 07/30/2021 6:17:02 PM PDT by cyclotic (Live your life in such a way that they hate you as much as they hated Rush Limbaugh)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“The number one rule of HR is you don’t want employees knowing the salaries of other employees.”

Where I worked when inflation was going crazy in the 70s, the new recruits were getting far more than the people with ten years working for the company. The owners thought they were keeping that secret, and they also pulled the “10% maximum raise” bull pucky. All the old timers found new jobs and left within a month. The company ran it’s assets and credit to zero and vanished. I met one of the owners selling mattresses at Macy’s.


54 posted on 07/30/2021 6:20:32 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: grundle
Good post, grundle.

Years ago, when I worked in the computer chip industry, I accidentally discovered that the HR departments from the three largest manufacturers in my state, were sharing their wage and salary information with each other - but NOT with the people who were applying for jobs or who already worked there.

They all basically agreed to follow a three tiered system where the most elite manufacturer paid the most, then a tier for the second best company, and a tier for the third.

That looked blatantly illegal to me, but when I cautiously inquired with two lawyers, I was told it was completely legal at the time.

55 posted on 07/30/2021 6:24:26 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Lazamataz

Yep. That’s where I am too. I don’t ever want to return to the office.


56 posted on 07/30/2021 6:36:28 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: SuperLuminal
So when did this “hide the salary” stuff begin to happen?

About the same time the Personnel Departments started being called Human Resources.

57 posted on 07/30/2021 8:13:44 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
18 people have jobs because I showed up and did my job. They have above average incomes for what they do and they deliver well above average performance in what they do.

It's a small number in a big economy, but every bit helps.

Nobody works for free. I don't expect that from anyone.

And what have you done lately?

58 posted on 07/30/2021 10:11:00 PM PDT by flamberge (Time has run out. Work with what you've got.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I know the salary isn’t first issue to bring up, but it’s ridiculous that you have to go through countless interviews and bother your references, have a background check and look at real estate before the salary is mentioned. Finally I just say “show me the money!”


59 posted on 07/31/2021 3:57:26 AM PDT by Babba Gi (WTF)
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To: EEGator

What the hell does that have to do with my post?

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If it’s any consolation, I wondered about that too.


60 posted on 07/31/2021 5:04:23 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (The China virus doesn't scare me, Venezuelaism does.)
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