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CDC reversal on indoor masking prompts experts to ask, ‘Where’s the data?’
The Washington compost ^ | July 29 2021 | Joel Achenbach, Yasmeen Abutaleb, Ben Guarino, Carolyn Y. Johnson

Posted on 07/29/2021 2:16:48 PM PDT by NoLibZone

New recommendations from federal health officials this week on when vaccinated Americans should don face masks came with a startling bolt of news: People who have had their shots and become infected with the delta variant of the coronavirus can harbor large amounts of virus just like unvaccinated people. That means they could become spreaders of the disease and should return to wearing masks indoors in certain situations, including when vulnerable people are present.

But the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention did not publish the new research. In the text of the updated masking guidance, the agency merely cited “CDC COVID-19 Response Team, unpublished data, 2021.”

Some outside scientists have their own message: Show us the data.

“They’re making a claim that people with delta who are vaccinated and unvaccinated have similar levels of viral load, but nobody knows what that means,” said Gregg Gonsalves, an associate professor at the Yale School of Public Health. “It’s meaningless unless we see the data.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cdc; covid; fauci
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To: NoLibZone

Data?? We don’ need no stinkin’ DATA!!!


21 posted on 07/29/2021 2:34:39 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Chinese communism will look different once the masks come off.)
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To: NoLibZone
They will never published the data because it will show that those that have been vaccinated carry a higher viral load.

...those that aren't already dead.

22 posted on 07/29/2021 2:36:03 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: NoLibZone
“They’re making a claim that people with delta who are vaccinated and unvaccinated have similar levels of viral load, but nobody knows what that means,"

Maybe the following is why. Robert is not a wacko. He took the Pfizer vaccine. He's got a lot of professional experience in the field. Think about it.

Are the buzzards coming home to roost?
TO BE CLEAR- I am pro-safe and ethical vaccines and vax development x 30+ years.
For preventative vaccines, one must develop, license etc. within a safety/ethics box
But shortcuts have been made with these, and other options deprioritized pic.twitter.com/0ol9iL4f4Z— Robert W Malone, MD (@RWMaloneMD) July 28, 2021



Click date for the video;

The title overstates my conclusion - vaccine could cause the virus to be more dangerous. The fragments of information being disclosed are consistent with this.https://t.co/I8Z84YnOea— Robert W Malone, MD (@RWMaloneMD) July 28, 2021


23 posted on 07/29/2021 2:41:39 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: janetjanet998

Goodness, if I were vaxxed I would be bewildered and vexed due to so much controversy on the treatments while at the same time knowing these treatments were not properly vetted - the only thing many cling to is Trump supports them (may be enough for lots of people, but not for me - and I admire Trump.)


24 posted on 07/29/2021 2:44:14 PM PDT by week 71
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To: NoLibZone

Interesting study came out earlier this week.

• Psychologists at the University of Pennsylvania conlcude from a study that trusting science is not enough. Without critical thinking, people who claim to “trust science” can be gullible (J Exp Soc Psych. 2021;96:104184 https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jesp.2021.104184). They ran four experiments (N = 532, N = 472, N = 605, N = 382) with online U.S. samples introduced false claims concerning a (fictional) virus created as a bioweapon, mirroring conspiracy theories about COVID-19, and carcinogenic effects of GMOs (Genetically Modified Organisms). Participants who trust science are more likely to believe and disseminate false claims that contain scientific references than false claims that do not. Reminding participants of the value of critical evaluation reduces belief in false claims, whereas reminders of the value of trusting science do not. We conclude that trust in science, although desirable in many ways, makes people vulnerable to pseudoscience.


25 posted on 07/29/2021 2:45:20 PM PDT by consult
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To: NoLibZone
Trust the science Democrats- they promise they saw the data and it says whatever they say it says.
26 posted on 07/29/2021 2:46:16 PM PDT by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! )
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To: consult

Exactly.
Why do those the trust the federal government and the cadre of scientists not trust GMO foods, growth hormones for chicken and beef, pesticides for produce?

Why such a push for organic products by liberals?


27 posted on 07/29/2021 2:47:55 PM PDT by NoLibZone (precedent now set: everyone must get an annual flu shot and divulge HIV status & its treatment)
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To: NoLibZone

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200909/could-your-mask-be-a-kind-of-vaccine-against-covid-19


28 posted on 07/29/2021 2:49:07 PM PDT by amihow (It is Western Civilization that confers privilege, not whiteness. Ask Carson, MLK, Sowell.)
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To: NoLibZone

Per the CDC,”Data? We doan need no stinkin’ data.”


29 posted on 07/29/2021 2:49:14 PM PDT by Tudorfly (All things are possible within the will of God.)
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To: rarestia
"(The CDC is) making a claim that people with delta who are vaccinated and unvaccinated have similar levels of viral load, but nobody knows what that means,” said Gregg Gonsalves, an associate professor at the Yale School of Public Health. “It’s meaningless unless we see the data.”


30 posted on 07/29/2021 2:49:19 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: NoLibZone
Whoa! Reporters asked for fact?

This is series.

31 posted on 07/29/2021 2:50:53 PM PDT by blackdog (Joe Biden, Deep State Cuckold.)
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To: consult

@ post 25. I trust the scientific method indeed. For now, anyway, I don’t trust the ‘scientists’.


32 posted on 07/29/2021 2:52:41 PM PDT by week 71
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To: NoLibZone

According to Dan Crenshaw, the data came from India and was a single paper which FAILED peer review and was based on a vaccine not even available here in the states.


33 posted on 07/29/2021 2:53:26 PM PDT by Mathews (It's all gravy, baby!)
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To: Flick Lives

If average vaccinated and unvaccinated people get covid, there would be no reason I’ve seen that the vaccinated group would harbor more or less virus than the unvaccinated groups. What would be the mechanisms that would cause the vaccinated group to shed MORE virus? Both groups would equally be dangerous and should be quarantined.


34 posted on 07/29/2021 2:54:04 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Having the Conch shell is no longer recognized by Dem "Flies" as giving one authority to speak.)
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To: NoLibZone

Biden Makes “Neanderthal Joe” Move, re wearing a mask after vaccination!

Peter Doocy and Ted Cruz Call Xiden Out On it!!!

Xiden snaps on camera when Peter Doocy calls out his conflicting statements!

https://rumble.com/vki7ff-biden-snaps-on-camera-when-peter-doocy-calls-out-his-conflicting-statements.html


35 posted on 07/29/2021 2:57:41 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (If I wanted to live in China, Cuba, Canada or ?????! I would move there! Covid 19 über alles!!!)
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To: NoLibZone

SCIENCE!


36 posted on 07/29/2021 2:58:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: NoLibZone

...something about expecting different results...


37 posted on 07/29/2021 3:00:04 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: NoLibZone; metmom; DoodleBob; airborne; blackdog

38 posted on 07/29/2021 3:00:39 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Honest GOP can't use legal means because Dems use illegal ones (threats). The Robert Creamer Party! )
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To: consult

a study that trusting science is not enough. Without critical thinking, people who claim to “trust science” can be gullible>>> There is nothing to trust. It is true or false. If it is a theory then we wait and see. Gravity is not a theory. Jump off a bridge you go down. Same as jumping off your curb.


39 posted on 07/29/2021 3:07:39 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: NoLibZone

Data? You don’t need no stinkin’ data. Heel!!!


40 posted on 07/29/2021 3:11:16 PM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem by far is that most of the news media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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