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Oregon County to Vote on Plan to Secede Into Idaho: Organizer
Epoch Times ^ | 07/21/2021 | Jack Phillips

Posted on 07/21/2021 8:05:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Voters in Oregon’s Harney County will be asked in November to decide on a “Greater Idaho” proposal, potentially allowing the county and several others in Oregon to join the neighboring state, according to a group that has collected signatures in support of the initiative.

Citizens for Greater Idaho’s website said on July 19 that the group has obtained enough signatures.

The group said the proposal would “extend Idaho’s jurisdiction over rural, conservative counties of eastern and southern Oregon” and are also “intended to put pressure on the state legislatures of Oregon and Idaho to negotiate an interstate compact to relocate their common border.”

“Idaho’s government would defend us from the radical Left’s cultural revolution and preserve our way of life—Oregon’s government wouldn’t,” said Mike McCarter, president of Move Oregon’s Border and Citizens for Greater Idaho, in a statement. “We may be able to convince northwestern Oregon to let eastern and southern Oregon counties go.”

Most voters in Oregon live in the northwestern part of the state, which includes heavily Democratic Portland, McCarter said in an interview with television station KTVZ.

“We feel in rural Oregon that we’re somewhat ignored,” he added on July 19, explaining why some residents in Harney County—located in eastern Oregon—may want to join Idaho. With just 7,400 residents, Harney is the state’s most sparsely populated county as well as one of the most sparsely populated counties in the United States.

Voters in seven other Oregon counties, he said, have already voted in favor of their county leaders meeting twice per year to discuss the “Greater Idaho” proposal.

Some experts noted that the concept is a long shot, as it would require the approval of the Democrat-led state legislature as well as the Democrat-controlled U.S. Congress.

(Excerpt) Read more at theepochtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Idaho; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: greateridaho; idaho; oregon; secession
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1 posted on 07/21/2021 8:05:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
The new state name could be

Wo-daho

or

Ow-daho

If Utah joined in, it could be Who-daho? U-daho.

2 posted on 07/21/2021 8:11:05 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: Jess Kitting

Who-daho?

Harris


3 posted on 07/21/2021 8:13:02 PM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: SeekAndFind

The constitution is very clear. No portion of a state may be used to secede to form a new state or join an existing state without the consent of the state legislature and Congress. Not going to happen.


4 posted on 07/21/2021 8:14:27 PM PDT by DownInFlames (G)
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To: Hieronymus

LOL


5 posted on 07/21/2021 8:16:42 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: DownInFlames

*The constitution is very clear. No portion of a state may be used to secede to form a new state or join an existing state without the consent of the state legislature and Congress. Not going to happen.*

That’s funny-you know why? Let’s say we win it all in 2024(even 2022/congress).Don’t you think the rats would be thinking the same? We be freedom-get it? We could ‘work’ something out. Give them their own country east of the Hudson-heh heh. Don’t you think Texas is thinking the same?


6 posted on 07/21/2021 8:36:43 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DownInFlames

> Not going to happen. <

Agreed. I do find it interesting that the United States is always preaching the right of self-determination to other countries. But no way is it allowed here.


7 posted on 07/21/2021 8:38:50 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Time to move to Orexit.


8 posted on 07/21/2021 8:39:48 PM PDT by bray (Hating Whites is racist)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s good to see people planning ahead.


9 posted on 07/21/2021 8:43:08 PM PDT by ALASKA (Trump will win resoundingly, but it's not going to be pretty. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Just move to Idaho. These movements are just a waste of time


10 posted on 07/21/2021 8:48:33 PM PDT by ready2brd
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To: DownInFlames

“The constitution is very clear. No portion of a state may be used to secede to form a new state or join an existing state without the consent of the state legislature and Congress. Not going to happen.”

Tell that to West Virginia.


11 posted on 07/21/2021 8:52:33 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: DownInFlames; Leaning Right
The constitution is very clear. No portion of a state may be used to secede to form a new state or join an existing state without the consent of the state legislature and Congress. Not going to happen.

That's not what it says. Here's the text:

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

So without the consent of Congress and the sate legislature(s) involved...

  1. A new state can't be formed within an existing state.
  2. Two states can't merge into one state.
  3. Two states can't contribute territory to form a third state.

It doesn't say that one existing state can't cede territory to another. It stands to reason the consent of both legislatures would be needed, but it doesn't look like Congress gets a say.

12 posted on 07/21/2021 9:00:24 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: DownInFlames

These secession movements are silly on both sides.

The problem will solve it self, if we just let nature and economics run its course.

The states of both Oregon and Washington are geological “gold mines” in natural resources. The rural counties in both states have been undervalued and underutilized since the late 1960’s & early 1970’s. The reasons are many and complex.

Both states hit peak urbanization around the late 1990’s or early 2000’s. Peak urbanization is when a large city can no longer grow within a natural organic supply chain. Supply chains move people, goods, and services where they’re needed, not only globally but locally.

When urbanized areas become expensive inflated bubbles of consumerism and non productive fat. The blob of fat eventually gets introduced to a diet. An economic diet.
When capital finds a better return it will leave and find new growth, regardless of politics or sentimentality.

Bill Gates is one of the wealthiest capitalist in world history. He is one of the familiar faces in the technology sector. A tech sector that has helped drive wealth & innovation through the stratosphere.

Yet Gates is investing in farm land at this very moment. He wouldn’t be doing it, if he thought it was a losing long term investment.

Secession isn’t going to happen.

The Federal government wouldn’t need a Grant or a Sherman either. The government would just cut off Social Security and Medicare payments to rebellious areas, until they folded.


13 posted on 07/21/2021 9:15:02 PM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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Same thing underway in parts of B.C. that want to be in Alberta instead of B.C. — same roadblocks in their way.

If they could grab a bit of Wyoming and Nevada then Wydahowagonevada comes into view.

This is rather like a very speculative idea I had earlier about some part of the U.S. declaring itself independent and “the real America” trying to rebuild the country back one county at a time once a suitable hard core base was created, and I imagined that hard core base might be states like Utah, Idaho, Nevada (except for Las Vegas possibly) and eastern Oregon, eastern Washington, Wyoming and Montana. plus some of the plains states.

It may be the only way to fix the trainwreck because the crazies have the demographics, part of the problem is that so many people all jammed in together tend to get crazy and stupid, other than Vienna in the late 18th century it’s hard to think of a city that didn’t quickly become crazy and stupid in a highly organized way.

Country roads, take me home.


14 posted on 07/22/2021 12:05:37 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (It's time we got serious about COVID-74 and COVID-92 and the Bulgarian variant and ...)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yeah, well, my wife's kommiefornia friends flocking to Idaho is making that state's future increasingly suspect.

Even kommifornian conservatives still act like liberal fools. Just because someone is pro 2nd amendment doesn't make them conservative.

The libertarian retards that post on FR are proof of that.

15 posted on 07/22/2021 3:12:59 AM PDT by LouAvul (Lying headlines from fake news articles written by pimps masquerading as journalists.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is backwards. Some Idaho counties should join Washington and Oregon and turn both of those states red.


16 posted on 07/22/2021 3:25:03 AM PDT by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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To: DownInFlames
Not going to happen.

But it should. The more it is talked about the better the idea sounds. That is how change happens.

17 posted on 07/22/2021 3:26:41 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: ready2brd

Freedom is never a waste of time.


18 posted on 07/22/2021 3:27:23 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: unclebankster

You only think in terms of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ not in terms of blood and freedom.


19 posted on 07/22/2021 3:28:15 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: unclebankster
There is no SS lock box, it is a Pay-go system.

"Rebellious" areas also can collect taxes and distribute them funds too. GET IT???? What kind of idiot thinks if a group of state secede that the citizens are going to keep sending taxes to DC? Are you daft?

20 posted on 07/22/2021 3:31:44 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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