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To: DownInFlames

These secession movements are silly on both sides.

The problem will solve it self, if we just let nature and economics run its course.

The states of both Oregon and Washington are geological “gold mines” in natural resources. The rural counties in both states have been undervalued and underutilized since the late 1960’s & early 1970’s. The reasons are many and complex.

Both states hit peak urbanization around the late 1990’s or early 2000’s. Peak urbanization is when a large city can no longer grow within a natural organic supply chain. Supply chains move people, goods, and services where they’re needed, not only globally but locally.

When urbanized areas become expensive inflated bubbles of consumerism and non productive fat. The blob of fat eventually gets introduced to a diet. An economic diet.
When capital finds a better return it will leave and find new growth, regardless of politics or sentimentality.

Bill Gates is one of the wealthiest capitalist in world history. He is one of the familiar faces in the technology sector. A tech sector that has helped drive wealth & innovation through the stratosphere.

Yet Gates is investing in farm land at this very moment. He wouldn’t be doing it, if he thought it was a losing long term investment.

Secession isn’t going to happen.

The Federal government wouldn’t need a Grant or a Sherman either. The government would just cut off Social Security and Medicare payments to rebellious areas, until they folded.


13 posted on 07/21/2021 9:15:02 PM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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Same thing underway in parts of B.C. that want to be in Alberta instead of B.C. — same roadblocks in their way.

If they could grab a bit of Wyoming and Nevada then Wydahowagonevada comes into view.

This is rather like a very speculative idea I had earlier about some part of the U.S. declaring itself independent and “the real America” trying to rebuild the country back one county at a time once a suitable hard core base was created, and I imagined that hard core base might be states like Utah, Idaho, Nevada (except for Las Vegas possibly) and eastern Oregon, eastern Washington, Wyoming and Montana. plus some of the plains states.

It may be the only way to fix the trainwreck because the crazies have the demographics, part of the problem is that so many people all jammed in together tend to get crazy and stupid, other than Vienna in the late 18th century it’s hard to think of a city that didn’t quickly become crazy and stupid in a highly organized way.

Country roads, take me home.


14 posted on 07/22/2021 12:05:37 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (It's time we got serious about COVID-74 and COVID-92 and the Bulgarian variant and ...)
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To: unclebankster

You only think in terms of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ not in terms of blood and freedom.


19 posted on 07/22/2021 3:28:15 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: unclebankster
There is no SS lock box, it is a Pay-go system.

"Rebellious" areas also can collect taxes and distribute them funds too. GET IT???? What kind of idiot thinks if a group of state secede that the citizens are going to keep sending taxes to DC? Are you daft?

20 posted on 07/22/2021 3:31:44 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: unclebankster
The Federal government wouldn’t need a Grant or a Sherman either. The government would just cut off Social Security and Medicare payments to rebellious areas, until they folded.

That would be a huge violation of the US Constitution.

21 posted on 07/22/2021 4:16:59 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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