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Pope Francis Lets Bishops Ban Old Latin Mass, Reversing Move by Pope Benedict XVI - WSJ
WSJ ^ | 16Jul 21 | Francis X. Rocxa

Posted on 07/16/2021 2:47:06 PM PDT by xzins

A papal decree published by the Vatican on Friday bans the celebration of the Latin Mass in parish churches, where most Catholics worship, and says that local bishops who permit the practice in their dioceses must regulate the locations and times where the celebrations take place. Newly ordained priests who want to celebrate the old Mass will need the permission of their bishops and the Vatican.

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1 posted on 07/16/2021 2:47:06 PM PDT by xzins
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It’s actually the pope doing the banning


2 posted on 07/16/2021 2:47:49 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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When Pope Francis first got his job he was actually kind of liberal about the TLM, but he’s gotten rigid.


3 posted on 07/16/2021 2:48:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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My traditionalist d-i-l is also very conservative morally and politically. That’s common, she says, among the traditionalists.


4 posted on 07/16/2021 2:50:31 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: xzins

Seems like the Pope flips flops on this one obscure issue over and over.


5 posted on 07/16/2021 2:51:00 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: xzins

Yes, but not always fiscally. I’ve heard that in some areas a lot are on welfare.


6 posted on 07/16/2021 2:53:21 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Frances is not very diverse or inclusive.


7 posted on 07/16/2021 2:54:03 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: xzins

They often set up in feudal arrangements. There is oe wealthy family that funds a lot, and then the rest of the families are kind of lower middle class or below, if you will.


8 posted on 07/16/2021 2:54:25 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: xzins

Anyone not clear that the ImPopester was installed by the New World Order to destroy the Catholic Church?


9 posted on 07/16/2021 2:55:50 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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I’m hearing the tridentalists are a growing segment of the church. Wonder why they want to kill very traditional Catholic growth?

Rock solid pro life, pro natural family, natural marriage, natural gender, anti-immorality. In short, they toe the Catholic line as it is written.


10 posted on 07/16/2021 2:56:34 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: xzins

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9796479/Traditional-catholics-furious-Pope-Francis-reverses-Benedict-decision-restrict-old-Latin-Mass.html


11 posted on 07/16/2021 2:57:12 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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I’ll ask. Dil has never reported such for their parish.


12 posted on 07/16/2021 2:58:12 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Well, he is a Jesuit.

....And Jesuits are notorious for their inclinations toward abortion, homosexuality, and/or communism.

No one pushes for the systematic removal of the Holy Bible and Traditional Christianity from the Catholic Church like the Jesuits do.


13 posted on 07/16/2021 2:59:39 PM PDT by Prole ( )
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To: xzins

Livestream of Cardinal Burke’s TLM starting at 1800 EST - https://boxcast.tv/channel/ppcsuohvx2la96vu23yv


14 posted on 07/16/2021 3:00:33 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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Cancel Culture in the Vatican


15 posted on 07/16/2021 3:01:21 PM PDT by Don Corleone (leave the gun, take the canolis)
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It must be a ‘Top Down’ sort of growth, based on wealth and donations. Won’t be the first centuries-old institition rapidly corrupted by a series of money bombs.


16 posted on 07/16/2021 3:03:35 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: xzins

Franciscus stultus est.


17 posted on 07/16/2021 3:06:02 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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As I noted on another earlier thread on this subject, moving the Traditional Latin Mass out of parish churches is going to be a good thing in the long term, and is likely to have an effect that's the exact opposite of what's intended.

Parish churches are dying. The TLM is flourishing wherever it is instituted on a regular basis. This is only going to become more obvious over time as the TLM is "relegated" to its own churches.

18 posted on 07/16/2021 3:20:28 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: xzins
I’m hearing the tridentalists are a growing segment of the church. Wonder why they want to kill very traditional Catholic growth?

The traditional Catholic movement is an embarrassment to the institutional Catholic Church because of their success ... just like "Deplorables" are an embarrassment to the Republican Party establishment.

19 posted on 07/16/2021 3:22:19 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: xzins; 05 Mustang GT Rocks; Ad Orientam; alex; antonius; aposiopetic; arielguard; bad company; ...

This could be a boon for Western Rite Orthodoxy.

Most Antiochian W.R. parishes use “The Divine Liturgy of St. Gregory” which is very similar to the TLM, except for being in English.

It will be interesting to see whether Metropolitan Joseph authorizes or encourages Latin speaking missions.


20 posted on 07/16/2021 3:24:35 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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