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There's no psychotic illness whose symptom is shooting other people
247Sports.com ^ | Mar.26.2021

Posted on 03/26/2021 6:33:27 AM PDT by Marinario

...on Thursday, his defense attorney asked for a mental health assessment "to address his mental illness."

But researchers and advocates say the rush to cast blame on a mental illness is misplaced.

"There's no psychotic illness whose symptom is shooting other people," said Dr. Jonathan Metzl, director of the Center for Medicine, Health and Society at Vanderbilt University.

"People are searching for explanations for behavior they don't understand. It's easy to put a label like mental illness on behavior that frankly seems just beyond the pale," said Angela Kimball, national director for advocacy and public policy at the National Alliance on Mental Illness.

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How did it get to reached "mental illness" from just being "paranoid" - as his brother first propagated to the Daily Beast next day of the massacre by Islamist Ahmad Al - Issa?
1 posted on 03/26/2021 6:33:27 AM PDT by Marinario
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To: Marinario

I would suggest going and putting five individuals who are identified with severe paranoid schizophrenia...into a room, with a sword on the floor. Within ten minutes....someone is going to pick up the stab and kill at least one other individual.


2 posted on 03/26/2021 6:39:56 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Marinario

I have never understood the core concept.

He’s a dangerous guy. He has shown a willingness to go out in public and shoot people in cold blood.

But, hey, he’s crazy, you know? Which means it’s not really his fault at all. So, I guess, maybe we shouldn’t even punish him. Or, at most, punish him a little.

And, could be, he’ll get better, and then we can let him walk the streets again. Because he probably wouldn’t do it again, right? I mean: what are the odds?

And if he does, you know, relapse, and shoot a bunch of people a second time, well, I guess we’’ll just punish him again. Keeping mind, of course, that it’s not his fault. Because he’s, you know, crazy.

My actual opinion: We know he did it and he should be executed within a month. Why keep that guy around?


3 posted on 03/26/2021 6:40:04 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("I see you did something -- why you so racist?")
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To: Marinario

Is MK Ultra considered a mental disease?


4 posted on 03/26/2021 6:41:05 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Marinario

Sure there is. Paranoia and schizophrenia are often enough to drive people to start shooting people.


5 posted on 03/26/2021 6:41:05 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (DemocRats would burn the country to the ground to be absolute rulers over the ashes.)
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To: Marinario

Zombified zombies have something in their heads. ISlam comes to mind here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts

where it comes from, where it goes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54BCLYNkFKg

who knows


6 posted on 03/26/2021 6:41:21 AM PDT by PGalt (past peak civilization?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Why are we paying to keep the Ft. Hood terrorist alive? He was sentenced to death.


7 posted on 03/26/2021 6:44:35 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity. )
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To: Marinario

It’s all “SCIENCE” I tell ya! You cannot disagree unless you’re a Neanderthal. Clear logical thinking-

BTW, where is the gay gene? Hmmmm, maybe somewhere between global warming and the ozone hole.

You can’t argue with “SCIENCE.” Just ask Al Gore. The debate is over-


8 posted on 03/26/2021 6:44:50 AM PDT by Red6
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To: ClearCase_guy; All

Reading his father (Moustafa Al Issa) posting on social media is scary... like asserting (FB: April 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM) that Christians and Jews are “stray animals”...


9 posted on 03/26/2021 6:45:20 AM PDT by Marinario
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To: Marinario

I agree with this premise, although I am not a doctor.

To be psychotic you just don’t see people as human beings, and you will be capable of flying off and killing someone without remorse, but it’s something else all together to hate people and go with planning and intent and take time (not a simple reaction) to kill as many people as possible.


10 posted on 03/26/2021 6:45:47 AM PDT by z3n
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To: Marinario

Islam is that mental illness.


11 posted on 03/26/2021 6:47:18 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: PGalt

No way,

You mean that maybe the person pulling the trigger, ideologies and motives, matter?

BTW, when our scientific minded President mentioned this shooting numerous times, how many times did he mention the name of the shooter, where he’s from, or religion? Why do you think?


12 posted on 03/26/2021 6:49:34 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6

way


13 posted on 03/26/2021 6:52:18 AM PDT by PGalt (past peak civilization?)
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To: Marinario

What!?!

What about “sudden jihadi syndrome”

/sarc


14 posted on 03/26/2021 6:56:32 AM PDT by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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No psychotic illness whose symptom is shooting other people

homicidal risk factors:

COGNITIONS:

intense wish to kill specified or named victim
command hallucinations
ambivalent wish to kill
nonspecific hostility

RISK FACTORS:

young male, little education, psychotic patient with delusions, substance abuse history, character disorder diagnosis

15 posted on 03/26/2021 7:00:20 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: ClearCase_guy
But, hey, he’s crazy, you know? Which means it’s not really his fault at all. So, I guess, maybe we shouldn’t even punish him. Or, at most, punish him a little.

Change the words on the sentencing documents from "execute" to "euthanize" and git 'er done.
16 posted on 03/26/2021 7:07:00 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Government is always its own largest and most important Special Interest. .)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

17 posted on 03/26/2021 7:17:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Marinario
We'd ALL do well to break it into dogmatic good and bad or holy vs evil.

In all of the "understandings" that man has ... it is only EVIL that fits every situation ... except there are some areas without an explanation ......

Jeremiah 17:9

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

The teaching is; ... You can't trust your heart for making decisions (gazillions of disappointed wives and not a few husbands will attest to that)


So there IS a condition that identifies shooting another person ... Satan is a murderer ....

John 8:44

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


This is probably why the phrase "So help me God" is no longer a priority in too many cases.

If I swear "so help me God" and I give HIS reasoning, it is supposed to be THE final judgement on a matter.

18 posted on 03/26/2021 7:18:20 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true !)
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To: a fool in paradise

He was sentenced to death.

In Texas!!!


19 posted on 03/26/2021 7:19:51 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Marinario

They have obviously never heard of islamic jehad


20 posted on 03/26/2021 7:26:16 AM PDT by Track9 (Dealing with democrats is like living without toilet paper. )
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