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How did it get to reached "mental illness" from just being "paranoid" - as his brother first propagated to the Daily Beast next day of the massacre by Islamist Ahmad Al - Issa?
1 posted on 03/26/2021 6:33:27 AM PDT by Marinario
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To: Marinario

I would suggest going and putting five individuals who are identified with severe paranoid schizophrenia...into a room, with a sword on the floor. Within ten minutes....someone is going to pick up the stab and kill at least one other individual.


2 posted on 03/26/2021 6:39:56 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Marinario

I have never understood the core concept.

He’s a dangerous guy. He has shown a willingness to go out in public and shoot people in cold blood.

But, hey, he’s crazy, you know? Which means it’s not really his fault at all. So, I guess, maybe we shouldn’t even punish him. Or, at most, punish him a little.

And, could be, he’ll get better, and then we can let him walk the streets again. Because he probably wouldn’t do it again, right? I mean: what are the odds?

And if he does, you know, relapse, and shoot a bunch of people a second time, well, I guess we’’ll just punish him again. Keeping mind, of course, that it’s not his fault. Because he’s, you know, crazy.

My actual opinion: We know he did it and he should be executed within a month. Why keep that guy around?


3 posted on 03/26/2021 6:40:04 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("I see you did something -- why you so racist?")
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To: Marinario

Is MK Ultra considered a mental disease?


4 posted on 03/26/2021 6:41:05 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Sure there is. Paranoia and schizophrenia are often enough to drive people to start shooting people.


5 posted on 03/26/2021 6:41:05 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (DemocRats would burn the country to the ground to be absolute rulers over the ashes.)
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Zombified zombies have something in their heads. ISlam comes to mind here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts

where it comes from, where it goes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54BCLYNkFKg

who knows


6 posted on 03/26/2021 6:41:21 AM PDT by PGalt (past peak civilization?)
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It’s all “SCIENCE” I tell ya! You cannot disagree unless you’re a Neanderthal. Clear logical thinking-

BTW, where is the gay gene? Hmmmm, maybe somewhere between global warming and the ozone hole.

You can’t argue with “SCIENCE.” Just ask Al Gore. The debate is over-


8 posted on 03/26/2021 6:44:50 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Marinario

I agree with this premise, although I am not a doctor.

To be psychotic you just don’t see people as human beings, and you will be capable of flying off and killing someone without remorse, but it’s something else all together to hate people and go with planning and intent and take time (not a simple reaction) to kill as many people as possible.


10 posted on 03/26/2021 6:45:47 AM PDT by z3n
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To: Marinario

Islam is that mental illness.


11 posted on 03/26/2021 6:47:18 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Marinario

What!?!

What about “sudden jihadi syndrome”

/sarc


14 posted on 03/26/2021 6:56:32 AM PDT by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: Marinario
No psychotic illness whose symptom is shooting other people

homicidal risk factors:

COGNITIONS:

intense wish to kill specified or named victim
command hallucinations
ambivalent wish to kill
nonspecific hostility

RISK FACTORS:

young male, little education, psychotic patient with delusions, substance abuse history, character disorder diagnosis

15 posted on 03/26/2021 7:00:20 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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We'd ALL do well to break it into dogmatic good and bad or holy vs evil.

In all of the "understandings" that man has ... it is only EVIL that fits every situation ... except there are some areas without an explanation ......

Jeremiah 17:9

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

The teaching is; ... You can't trust your heart for making decisions (gazillions of disappointed wives and not a few husbands will attest to that)


So there IS a condition that identifies shooting another person ... Satan is a murderer ....

John 8:44

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


This is probably why the phrase "So help me God" is no longer a priority in too many cases.

If I swear "so help me God" and I give HIS reasoning, it is supposed to be THE final judgement on a matter.

18 posted on 03/26/2021 7:18:20 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true !)
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To: Marinario

They have obviously never heard of islamic jehad


20 posted on 03/26/2021 7:26:16 AM PDT by Track9 (Dealing with democrats is like living without toilet paper. )
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To: Marinario

Well, the DSM is so thick everyone has some sort of mental illness. The issue would be if the guy knows right from wrong and can make rational decisions.

Granted, we as a culture are immersed in moral relativism but it’s doubtful he’s so mentally ill he did it all on impulse to kill lizard people and save the planet. The criminally insane units for life are as bad or worse than prison.


21 posted on 03/26/2021 7:28:43 AM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: Marinario

Paranoia?


22 posted on 03/26/2021 7:28:51 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Many tears will fall as America falls.)
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isn’t killing unknown people who are not threatening you the very definition of mental illness? As in, you have to be nuts to do something like that?


24 posted on 03/26/2021 7:55:26 AM PDT by NicoDon
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To: Marinario

There’s no psychotic illness whose symptom is shooting other people


other than Islam


25 posted on 03/26/2021 8:17:30 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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This is good stuff; you could derive the following:

—close the “crazy” defense— legal refuge from culpability
—background checks are of limited value
—past mental health history is no reason to deny any permit
—gun owners who need MH services no longer fear stigma
—individual responsibility central
—subjective motives attributed to crime are of little use
—’paranoia’ is vague, neither disorder or symptom.


30 posted on 03/26/2021 11:21:22 AM PDT by tsomer
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