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Growing evidence Capitol attack was pre-planned undercuts Trump impeachment premise
Just The News ^ | February 8, 2021 - 9:35am | John Solomon

Posted on 02/08/2021 8:45:21 PM PST by Candor7

Days before former President Trump's impeachment trial begins, newly filed federal charges against anti-government activists offer fresh, compelling evidence that the accused perpetrators of the Capitol riots pre-planned their attack days and weeks in advance and in plain sight of an FBI that vowed to be vigilant to extremist threats.

A dozen FBI affidavits supporting charges against the more than 200 defendants show rioters engaged in advance planning on social media sites. The planning included training, casing sites, identifying commanders on scene, and requests for donations of cash, as well as combat and communication gear.

More than a half dozen of the suspects are now charged with conspiracy to commit violence for actions predating the Jan. 6 riots. The early actions identified in court documents date back to November, with planning and rhetoric accelerating after Christmas, court records show.

That growing body of evidence raises questions about whether the FBI and other security agencies acted proactively enough to thwart the violence. It also undercuts the House Democrats' impeachment claim — supported by 10 Republicans — that Trump's speech spontaneously incited the riots, legal experts told Just the News.

"I would hope that those 10 Republicans and hopefully even some Democrats would say as we now look at the timelines that the media, The New York Times, The Washington Post, and all are reporting on, here's exactly it, the facts," said Kenneth Starr, the former federal appeals judge, solicitor general and Whitewater independent counsel.

"[House lawmakers] made a huge, colossal blunder," said Starr, who was a member of the defense team for Trump's first Senate impeachment trial. "So walk back, and apologize to the former president, apologize to the American people that I never should have voted in favor of this without the benefit of all the facts. I rushed to judgment."

Trump's lawyers are planning to argue the president's speech did not in fact incite violence but rather called for peaceful protest and was protected by the First Amendment. They also are preparing a video montage showing Democrats making comments encouraging violence dating to last summer's BLM protests.

George Washington University legal scholar Jonathan Turley, a Democrat who has defended Trump on impeachment issues, argued in a column published Sunday in The Hill newspaper that the impeachment claims do not meet the legal standard of incitement.

"It is so much easier to claim easy prosecutions than to prosecute such made-for-television charges," Turley wrote. "I do not fault these experts for speculating about such a case, but many claim that prosecution would be relatively simple. That is just not true.

"The problem is free speech. The remarks of Trump last month would not satisfy the test in [landmark free speech case Brandenburg v. Ohio] when the Supreme Court said 'advocacy of the use of force or of law violation' is protected unless it is imminent. Trump did not call for use of force. He told supporters to go 'peacefully' and to 'cheer on' his allies in Congress."

Beyond the First Amendment, the FBI's investigation provides growing evidence that the riot was not spontaneous but planned. For instance, last week federal prosecutors filed an FBI affidavit showing that two days after Christmas, an anti-government activist named Ethan Nordean in the state of Washington posted a message on his Parler account as he planned to come to Washington for the Jan. 6 Capitol protest. It made a fund-raising appeal to "help us with safety/protective gear and communications equipment," according to FBI documents,

By Jan. 4, Nordean, a Proud Boys member who also went by the fictional name Rufio Panman, escalated the rhetoric as he prepared to come to the capital, suggesting violence was imminent.

"Let them remember the day they decided to make war with us," Nordean allegedly wrote on his Parler account.

Screenshots taken from a video "show NORDEAN and other Proud Boys dressed in tactical gear along with the phrase 'Back the YELLOW,' which is a phrase commonly used to show support for the Proud Boys," the FBI affidavit said. File Nordean.pdf

FBI affidavits filed against other defendants in the attack detail extensive fundraising efforts on popular and public websites like Go Fund Me and the Christian fundraising site GiveSendGo, prompting a crackdown on such sites.

One of the cases in which the FBI has detailed the most extensive pre-planning involves the conspiracy charges against Thomas Edward Caldwell, Donovan Ray Crowl, and Jessica Marie Watkins.

"Evidence uncovered in the course of the investigation demonstrates that not only did CALDWELL, CROWL, WATKINS, and others conspire to forcibly storm the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021 — they communicated with one another in advance of the incursion and planned their attack," an FBI affidavit states. File CaldwellAffidavit.pdf

The FBI alleges intercepted audio from the Jan. 6 attacks shows the three discussing sticking to a plan.

"We have a good group," Watkins is quoted saying in one of the transmissions. "We have about 30-40 of us. We are sticking together and sticking to the plan."

The affidavit also cites a pre-riot meeting at a northern Virginia hotel

In one Facebook message, Crowl tells Caldwell: "Will probably call you tomorrow ... mainly because ... I like to know wtf plan is. You are the man COMMANDER."

The FBI also states that days before the riot Caldwell appeared to refer to Oath Keepers leader Elmer Stewart Rhodes in a Facebook message to group members in which he talked about coordinating with activists from other states.

"I don't know if Stewie has even gotten out his call to arms but it's a little friggin late," Caldwell wrote, according to the FBI. "This is one we are doing on our own. We will link up with the north carolina crew."

As the FBI uses open-source social media to make its case against many of the accused perpetrators, questions are also arising about why the FBi didn't do more beforehand to thwart actors who were talking about war, violence and combat when they got to Washington.

FBI officials, when pressed about whether agents were too complacent before the attacks, noted that an alert was sent Jan. 4 to the Joint Terrorism Task Force in Washington, D.C. warning of possible violence.

They also cited Director Chris Wray's testimony in September to the House Judiciary Committee in which he vowed vigilance against anti-government and white supremacist activists but warned that the bureau often feels constrained by the line between the First Amendment and imminent threats of violence.

"We recognize that the FBI must be aware not just of the domestic violent extremism threat, but also of threats emanating from those responding violently to First Amendment-protected activities," Wray testified.

"In the past, we have seen some violent extremists respond to peaceful movements through violence rather than non-violent actions and ideas, he said. "The FBI is involved only when responses cross from ideas and constitutionally protected protests to violence. Regardless of the specific ideology involved, the FBI requires that all domestic terrorism investigations be predicated based on activity intended to further a political or social goal, wholly or in part involving force, coercion, or violence, in violation of federal law."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antifa; capitol; capitolriot; donovanraycrowl; ethannordean; falseflag; fbifail; impeachment; jessicamariewatkins; noninsurrection; oathkeepers; planned; proudboys; thomasedwardcaldwell
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To: Candor7

It was a Comey-Brenner-Clapper black op with FIB and others embedded in deep state security intelligence forces who planned to completely destroy the overthrown legitimate President, destroy his supporters freedom of assembly, and freedom of speech in this classic “color revolution “.


41 posted on 02/09/2021 1:48:38 AM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: Candor7

It was probably democrat party operative who preplanned it.


42 posted on 02/09/2021 2:58:44 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: bray

Who killed ASHLI?

And WHY is our government PROTECTING him??


43 posted on 02/09/2021 3:40:53 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Candor7

Agree.


44 posted on 02/09/2021 3:47:25 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: kiryandil
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45 posted on 02/09/2021 3:51:29 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Candor7
We watched capitol police wave their arms "come on! come on in"
We watched capitol police remove fences, as if on que.
We watched antifa dress in MAGA hats and enter, AND THEN BRAG on it

AT THE SAME TIME TRUMP WAS GIVING HIS "PEACEFUL AND PATRIOTIC" REMARKS.

46 posted on 02/09/2021 4:27:24 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Delete FB, TWTR, GOOGL, AMZN, YHOO, Gmail/chrome. Use Gab, Brave + DDG, VPN, Freerepublic )
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To: Lod881019

Let’s say she is a “reasonable” conservative. She says a lot of great things. But I’m afraid she is pushing the envelope with this. Because if this was true, then indeed we could indict about anyone for using hyperbole any time.


47 posted on 02/09/2021 4:55:09 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: DCBryan1

Agreed 100 %. Just look at the case of anarchist John Sullivan who was arraigned, given low bail and was interviewed on CNN right after court appearance.He went into the building embeded with a CNN reporter, who also was not even charged becasue she supposedly had a 1st amendment press pass.Sullivan was only 5 feet away from Ashli Babbit when she was shot. Did Sullibvan signal to the Capitol Policeman it was OK to shoot. Was he part of an inside/outside plan?

This whole situatioon needs to be examined forensically.

And the Capiytol Police are refusing to answer ANY questions. The FBI is spinning facts.

Huge Coverup in Prograss by the fascists now in power.

It was a false flag OP. These fascists deserve what they will get now. And it won’t be pretty.When they play with fire, they will find that people will be pissing gasoline as a natural , spontaneous consequence. Thats why there are still 6200 National Guard in Washington with 12 foot fences topped with concertina wire. Our little fascist dictators are scared. They know they have sinned. And the consequences will ripen at some point.


48 posted on 02/09/2021 5:16:23 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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To: Candor7

yet the FBI is totally baffled when it comes to investigating Black Lies Matter and Antifa.


49 posted on 02/09/2021 6:31:33 AM PST by euram
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To: euram
yet the FBI is totally baffled when it comes to investigating Black Lies Matter and Antifa.

Aw, give the a break. It's hard to investigate an "idea". One that charters busses and planes, hires mercs to train and direct troop movements, pre-set riot materials, and has lawyers and DAs already in place.

It's not like there's a money trail anywhere, or even security footage in any of these places.

50 posted on 02/09/2021 6:42:36 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Candor7

Vaguely reminds me of the Ward firing on, and sinking the Japanese midget sub outside the Pearl Harbor channel...approximately one hour before the attack on December 7th.

Finger pointing began immediately...and continues to this day.

This Kabuki will follow the same historical path.


51 posted on 02/09/2021 6:53:09 AM PST by AFret.
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To: Candor7

Biden Reichstag fire


52 posted on 02/09/2021 7:43:28 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatche)
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To: Candor7
President Trump has options.

1) Call out Harris for not being a Natural Born Citizen as defined in Sen. Resolution 511 (2008). Neither of her parents were ‘... American citizen parents’ at her birth.

see - link regarding NBC

2) Call out Obama for not being a Natural Born Citizen and remove the 44th President from history.

3) Have the FEC de-certify the Democrat National Committee as an on-going criminal enterprise for proposing unqualified candidates in past elections. Overnite all the (D)s become (I)s.

4) Challenge the seats of all members of Congress who voted to certify Gropin’ Joe and Kamalatoes and remove the ones elected in fraud-ridden elections.

5) Put up a ‘Help Wanted’ with the thought of firing and replacing 2/3 of all non-military federal workers. That would include the entire FBI, and the arrest of all CIA operatives found stateside.

You can find the meaning of Natural Born Citizen here.

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/United_States_Statutes_at_Large/Volume_1/1st_Congress/2nd_Session/Chapter_3

Look for this part:

“And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, Also, children of citizens born beyond sea, &c. or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States”

That seams to be a painfully clear definition of what was meant by “Natural Born Citizen” to me.

53 posted on 02/09/2021 8:57:10 AM PST by RideForever (We are born to be tested ...)
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To: Salamander

Agreed...


54 posted on 02/09/2021 11:02:49 AM PST by DoughtyOne (The Republican Party is dead. Long live the Founders Party.)
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To: Impy

I decided it’s time to run for something

Input?
You too


55 posted on 02/09/2021 6:13:46 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ) )
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To: campaignPete R-CT

I might run, away.

You? State House? Local?


56 posted on 02/09/2021 6:17:42 PM PST by Impy (George Washington did not concede to King George.)
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To: Impy

James Marter, this is his year! Beat kinzinger

But he lives in Oswego. That’s in 14th


57 posted on 02/09/2021 7:12:50 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ) )
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To: Impy

I should be grassroots and internet critic of Jahanna Hayes

For about 6 towns of her 41


58 posted on 02/09/2021 7:17:45 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ) )
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To: campaignPete R-CT; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican

I don’t care where he lives, he should’ve gone against Kinz again instead of going for the open 14th. Catalina Lauf would have won that seat. Oberweis did but was robbed.


59 posted on 02/09/2021 7:18:35 PM PST by Impy (George Washington did not concede to King George.)
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To: Impy

You have to do 15th. 13 months away ..


60 posted on 02/09/2021 7:19:55 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ) )
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