Skip to comments.Growing evidence Capitol attack was pre-planned undercuts Trump impeachment premise
Posted on 02/08/2021 8:45:21 PM PST by Candor7
Days before former President Trump's impeachment trial begins, newly filed federal charges against anti-government activists offer fresh, compelling evidence that the accused perpetrators of the Capitol riots pre-planned their attack days and weeks in advance and in plain sight of an FBI that vowed to be vigilant to extremist threats.
A dozen FBI affidavits supporting charges against the more than 200 defendants show rioters engaged in advance planning on social media sites. The planning included training, casing sites, identifying commanders on scene, and requests for donations of cash, as well as combat and communication gear.
More than a half dozen of the suspects are now charged with conspiracy to commit violence for actions predating the Jan. 6 riots. The early actions identified in court documents date back to November, with planning and rhetoric accelerating after Christmas, court records show.
That growing body of evidence raises questions about whether the FBI and other security agencies acted proactively enough to thwart the violence. It also undercuts the House Democrats' impeachment claim — supported by 10 Republicans — that Trump's speech spontaneously incited the riots, legal experts told Just the News.
"I would hope that those 10 Republicans and hopefully even some Democrats would say as we now look at the timelines that the media, The New York Times, The Washington Post, and all are reporting on, here's exactly it, the facts," said Kenneth Starr, the former federal appeals judge, solicitor general and Whitewater independent counsel.
"[House lawmakers] made a huge, colossal blunder," said Starr, who was a member of the defense team for Trump's first Senate impeachment trial. "So walk back, and apologize to the former president, apologize to the American people that I never should have voted in favor of this without the benefit of all the facts. I rushed to judgment."
Trump's lawyers are planning to argue the president's speech did not in fact incite violence but rather called for peaceful protest and was protected by the First Amendment. They also are preparing a video montage showing Democrats making comments encouraging violence dating to last summer's BLM protests.
George Washington University legal scholar Jonathan Turley, a Democrat who has defended Trump on impeachment issues, argued in a column published Sunday in The Hill newspaper that the impeachment claims do not meet the legal standard of incitement.
"It is so much easier to claim easy prosecutions than to prosecute such made-for-television charges," Turley wrote. "I do not fault these experts for speculating about such a case, but many claim that prosecution would be relatively simple. That is just not true.
"The problem is free speech. The remarks of Trump last month would not satisfy the test in [landmark free speech case Brandenburg v. Ohio] when the Supreme Court said 'advocacy of the use of force or of law violation' is protected unless it is imminent. Trump did not call for use of force. He told supporters to go 'peacefully' and to 'cheer on' his allies in Congress."
Beyond the First Amendment, the FBI's investigation provides growing evidence that the riot was not spontaneous but planned. For instance, last week federal prosecutors filed an FBI affidavit showing that two days after Christmas, an anti-government activist named Ethan Nordean in the state of Washington posted a message on his Parler account as he planned to come to Washington for the Jan. 6 Capitol protest. It made a fund-raising appeal to "help us with safety/protective gear and communications equipment," according to FBI documents,
By Jan. 4, Nordean, a Proud Boys member who also went by the fictional name Rufio Panman, escalated the rhetoric as he prepared to come to the capital, suggesting violence was imminent.
"Let them remember the day they decided to make war with us," Nordean allegedly wrote on his Parler account.
Screenshots taken from a video "show NORDEAN and other Proud Boys dressed in tactical gear along with the phrase 'Back the YELLOW,' which is a phrase commonly used to show support for the Proud Boys," the FBI affidavit said. File Nordean.pdf
FBI affidavits filed against other defendants in the attack detail extensive fundraising efforts on popular and public websites like Go Fund Me and the Christian fundraising site GiveSendGo, prompting a crackdown on such sites.
One of the cases in which the FBI has detailed the most extensive pre-planning involves the conspiracy charges against Thomas Edward Caldwell, Donovan Ray Crowl, and Jessica Marie Watkins.
"Evidence uncovered in the course of the investigation demonstrates that not only did CALDWELL, CROWL, WATKINS, and others conspire to forcibly storm the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021 — they communicated with one another in advance of the incursion and planned their attack," an FBI affidavit states. File CaldwellAffidavit.pdf
The FBI alleges intercepted audio from the Jan. 6 attacks shows the three discussing sticking to a plan.
"We have a good group," Watkins is quoted saying in one of the transmissions. "We have about 30-40 of us. We are sticking together and sticking to the plan."
The affidavit also cites a pre-riot meeting at a northern Virginia hotel
In one Facebook message, Crowl tells Caldwell: "Will probably call you tomorrow ... mainly because ... I like to know wtf plan is. You are the man COMMANDER."
The FBI also states that days before the riot Caldwell appeared to refer to Oath Keepers leader Elmer Stewart Rhodes in a Facebook message to group members in which he talked about coordinating with activists from other states.
"I don't know if Stewie has even gotten out his call to arms but it's a little friggin late," Caldwell wrote, according to the FBI. "This is one we are doing on our own. We will link up with the north carolina crew."
As the FBI uses open-source social media to make its case against many of the accused perpetrators, questions are also arising about why the FBi didn't do more beforehand to thwart actors who were talking about war, violence and combat when they got to Washington.
FBI officials, when pressed about whether agents were too complacent before the attacks, noted that an alert was sent Jan. 4 to the Joint Terrorism Task Force in Washington, D.C. warning of possible violence.
They also cited Director Chris Wray's testimony in September to the House Judiciary Committee in which he vowed vigilance against anti-government and white supremacist activists but warned that the bureau often feels constrained by the line between the First Amendment and imminent threats of violence.
"We recognize that the FBI must be aware not just of the domestic violent extremism threat, but also of threats emanating from those responding violently to First Amendment-protected activities," Wray testified.
"In the past, we have seen some violent extremists respond to peaceful movements through violence rather than non-violent actions and ideas, he said. "The FBI is involved only when responses cross from ideas and constitutionally protected protests to violence. Regardless of the specific ideology involved, the FBI requires that all domestic terrorism investigations be predicated based on activity intended to further a political or social goal, wholly or in part involving force, coercion, or violence, in violation of federal law."
He got crickets from McConnell and Pelosi even though he warned them of the briefing he got from both FBI and the NYC Police, that violence was planned.
Pelosi and McConnell wanted this "Insurrection" to happen.They knew of it beforehand.They were informed it would likely happen.
Early in the day on the 6th, the Capitol Police found a Pipe Bomb at RNC HQ and still nothing was done to get assistance for additional Capitol Defense.
The FBI knew what was being planned, and they sat on their hands.
The cause of death of the police officer who was allegedly struck with a fire extinguisher is not known, The coroner said it was not by blunt instrument. There is yet no official cause of death.
Yet,the Impeachment case by the Dem House managers states that the officer was killed by fire extinguisher.Thats a lie.
The Capitol Police murderer of Ashli Babbit has not been identified but Capitol Police investigators say he will not be charged.
There is a whole lot of cover up going on.
This was not a spontaneous riot incited by President Trump. It was planned , the FBI knew it was planned, even recorded some of the actors with wire taps. Yet they did nothing to stop the riot, and may have helped the effort along. One of the Proud Boys leaders , an FBI informant was arrested on the 5th, to take him out of the crime.
These rioters were not "Trump Supporters" They fund raised and planned it.And many on the hill knew it was going to happen.The Capitol Police Chief knew it would happen and asked for help. Pelosi and McConnell left him swinging in the wind.
The truth is beginning to emerge despite the cover up.
“Pre-Planned” by who?
Not by Donald J. Trump
but ain’t it funny that William Barr got out of town two weeks ahead of time resigning as Attorney General.
They could have video taped planning sessions with people explaining exactly what they are going to do with graphs, charts, and power point presentations and it will have no impact on the democrats whatsoever
Is this part of the plan?
“Pre-Planned” by who?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
“Evidence uncovered in the course of the investigation demonstrates that not only did CALDWELL, CROWL, WATKINS, and others conspire to forcibly storm the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021 — they communicated with one another in advance of the incursion and planned their attack,” an FBI affidavit states.”
And since they were surveillanced and wiretapped, the FBI knew it was coming. And they did nothing?
Not a spontaneous riot incited by Trump. It was a planned riot,nothing to do with President Trump.
The FIB turned a blind eye to it because they wanted Trump out of office.
And yet Barr is apparently assisting Biden in drafting executive orders!!
Local radio host was going over how Trump instigated “violence” by months of rhetoric stoking the fire and that is what the trial would bring up. So it wouldn’t matter it was pre-planned because Trump’s rhetoric pushed it.
Yes, truth means nothing anymore in this new "1984" America. The swamp does what it pleases and the media picks and chooses what to report. There should have been a full blown fair media investigation and congressional hearings days after but.....NOTHING and it is total BS.
At this point, regardless of what 1/6 was, 'Hill can burn down for all I care.
It won’t ever matter.
We also have evidence the election was rigged and the riggers are even bragging about it in Time Magazine.
It doesn’t matter.
"All ya gotta do is Lie Like A Democrat, and Fight Like A Democrat"...
We have a government as completely corrupt as the worst on the planet.
They arrested their Proud Boy snitch to keep him safe.
So there's that...
Trump Sends National Guard to Capitol in Attempt To Clear Rioters Published January 6, 2021 at 3:55pm
White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany announced the decision to call in troops following the incursion of the Capitol by rioters. According to McEnany, the Guard will be joined by other federal officers.At President @realDonaldTrump’s direction, the National Guard is on the way along with other federal protective services.
We reiterate President Trump’s call against violence and to remain peaceful.
— Kayleigh McEnany (@PressSec) January 6, 2021
Over at doh-j HQ........😴😴😴😴😴
This local host sounds sounds like a complete loon...you can tell everyone that the local bank is primed to robbed everyday do to lax security and say it everyday it doesn’t mean when the bank is actually robbed that you egged someone on to do it
TIME Claims a “Secret Cabal” colluded to manipulate the 2020 election to Stop Trump……..and get this……... “to save democracy.”
(cue hysterical laughter here)
The hypocrisy is stultifying. These same people went postal over Russian inter
Now Time tells us the interference was in our own backyard.
TIME recounts activities that are downright illegal and dangerous to free and fair elections.
Yet, we, the people, hear not even one discouraging word.
Listen up, students.
A secret cabal of wealthy and politically-connected elites
conspiring to manipulate an election is directly counter to (drum roll please)......”a democracy.”
More like tin pot third world dictators scared of losing their sinecures.
The FBI apparently had the proud bouys leader arrested and he didn’t attend the rally. I thought that a bit convient.
THIS JUST IN—-
CNN president Jeff Zucker, 55, announces he will step down at the end of 2021 after almost a decade in charge
UK Daily Mail ^ | February 4 2021
CNN president Jeff Zucker will leave the news organization at the end of 2021 after almost a decade in charge. Zucker 55, told staff: ‘I’m going to stay and finish my current contract, which, as I said, will keep me here until the end of this year. ‘At that point, I do expect to move on.’ (Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk …
BACKSTORY Zucker at CNN and the MSM and social media quashed the Hunter Biden laptop story with such force b/c it showed that the cunning Chinese have compromised the Bidens (and so many of the US elite), that the story simply couldn’t be allowed to be heard ……
To me, the crucial point is that CNN itself decided to ditch Hunter’s laptop story to save Joe Biden’s *** because many Voters have since said they would not have voted for Biden if they had known of the laptop’s incendiary contents. CNN’s Zucker provided extremely valuable services to the Biden Campaign AND the Democratic Party far in excess of Federal election Law. Ergo, Zucker has unwittingly opened up himself and CNN to criminal prosecution.
<>Project Veritas, monitored and recorded CNN’s morning editorial conference call for some two months….
<>CNN PTB are heard plotting the “news of the day”
<>CNN head Zucker dictates the network’s editorial slant.
<>Zucker and his henchmen are in lockstep
<>CNN was heard manipulating news items, hand-picking stories to be reported, and how they will be presented……
<>CNN itself decided Hunter’s laptop story should be ditched to save Joe Biden’s ***.
<>Many voters said they would not have voted Biden if they knew about the contents of Hunter’s laptop.
<>CNN made sure candidate Biden was protected at all costs.
<>CNN is a criminal accessory after the fact, aiding and abetting, colluding in the Democrats’ election steal.
<>L/E needs to uncover when CNN knew about the election steal….and when did they know it?
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