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A Different Type of Secession Is Already Happening in the USA
Townhall.com ^ | January 31, 2021 | Jeff Crouere

Posted on 01/31/2021 5:55:31 AM PST by Kaslin

Lately, there has been so much frustration with the last election and the direction of our country that some Trump supporters have been talking about “secession.” Many conservatives and libertarians are asking if it makes sense for certain states to leave the union the way South Carolina left in 1860, after the election of Abraham Lincoln as president of the United States.

Whether it makes “sense” or not, we can be assured that it will not happen. Although the South Carolina state legislature voted in November of 1860 to initiate the process of secession, no state legislature would do that today. This is because most modern state legislatures, even conservative ones, do not have many members who are angry enough at the federal government to support seceding from it.

Never forget that many individual state legislators are professional politicians. They may disagree with some of the policies that flow from Washington D.C., but they are not angry enough to vote for secession, and that is what is required to secede, anger. While an official secession will not happen, there will be a different type. In fact, it has already started in our country.

Instead of state legislatures, dominated by urban dwellers, voting for secession, Americans who live in rural and some suburban areas are executing a secession of their own. They are disassociating themselves from the lifestyles, cultural mores, laws, and self-inflicted wounds exhibited in our large cities.

Of course, rural Americans are already living in areas removed from large cities, but geography is only one of the many differences. An even more striking distinction involves political ideology and attitudes on an array of issues like criminal justice.

Citizens living outside of ultra-progressive urban areas do not accept what is going on in large cities. Surely, the thinking is, “I am not one of them. They are different from me. We do not agree on basic things, like what laws should govern human conduct.”

This mental disassociation did not exist in previous times of crisis in our country. There was much more national unity in December of 1941 or even September of 2001. At that time, rural Americans and city dwellers still had many shared values and followed the same laws. Clearly, the similarity in culture and politics between rural and urban Americans is dying, and the pace of its death march is quickening.

This same type of disassociation is also felt by many Americans living in suburban areas. They recognize their way of life is incompatible with that exhibited in large cities. This results in suburban dwellers venturing into cities less often. Once there, they feel unsafe and unwelcome. According to the FBI, crime rates in our urban areas are significantly higher than in suburban and rural areas.

More crime is not the only difference Americans notice in large cities. There are also different laws regarding decency, civility, and cleanliness. Unfortunately, manners and traditional customs are rarely, if ever, practiced.

Many horrific things can happen to you in a large city without warning. You can be struck from behind in a “Knockout Attack” or wounded by a stray bullet. You can be surrounded by violent demonstrators who scream at you and call you evil because of your wealth, race, religious views, or political beliefs. This is not a place that feels comfortable or feels like home.   

Over the past few decades, millions of Americans who support traditional American values, and even some who value safety, have already left our large cities. They are disgusted with the political corruption, high taxes, racial politics, homelessness and, over the past year, the excessive Covid-19 lockdown orders. 

People leaving are also those who value their second amendment rights. They do not want to be charged with a crime if they have to defend their home. Who can forget what happened to Mark and Patricia McCloskey in St. Louis?

On June 28, 2020, their neighborhood was overrun by protesters and a mob was descending on the McCloskey’s home. The couple waved firearms in front of their home to encourage the protesters to leave. No gun was ever fired at any of the trespassers. Incredibly, Mr. and Mrs. McCloskey were charged with the unlawful use of a weapon even though they feared for their lives. If convicted, they could face up to four years in prison and a fine of $10,000.

As this trend continues and cities like St. Louis, Detroit, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Washington D.C., and New York City decline even more, these areas will simultaneously become more similar. They already have much in common politically. Future cooperation will likely continue on issues such as drug legalization, the treatment of homelessness, gun control, permissive law enforcement, and providing a sanctuary and support for illegal aliens. With so much commonality, these cities will forge even closer bonds in the days ahead.

With unworkable policies and massive bureaucracies, these cities will need greater and greater subsidies from productive, tax-paying citizens living in rural and suburban America. Urban areas have been failing financially for many years, but as the policies become more progressive, the costs are escalating even higher.

In large cities, politicians spend vast sums of money on enormous municipal government systems which include inefficient departments featuring payrolls that are too large and too expensive. Other characteristics include broken infrastructure, rampant homelessness, and an overly generous municipal pension system.

How much longer will productive taxpayers living in rural and suburban communities agree to subsidize large cities? Sooner or later, these citizens will say “Enough is enough, we want out!” They will want the urban centers to form their own “United Cities of America” with their own laws and lifestyles.

Simultaneously, Americans living in non-urban areas will want to forge closer bonds of their own as similarities are recognized even more. 

The secession of 1860 will not happen again, but a different kind is already taking place.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; dividednation; rural; secession; urban; whencitiesdie; whencountriesdie
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To: Pontiac; All

“When much of the country is considering loosening restrictions she is ready to double down.”

Face - Words - Deeds STRAIGHT FROM THE DEPTHS OF HELL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2FW1WJc0lg

Ain’t no stopping us now. We’re on the move!

Wicked Witch of the Midwest Melts Down...Double.

psst...pass it on...


101 posted on 01/31/2021 12:05:26 PM PST by PGalt (confirmed: past peak civilization)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Perhaps not to you or me but it’s about guns to Biden et al. As far as they’re concerned if they take away the guns we can organize untill we’re blue in the face.


102 posted on 01/31/2021 1:28:15 PM PST by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: ridesthemiles

That used to be true, but cities are moving their control far from their traditional borders. I live at least a twenty minute drive from town yet I am living inside the city limits. I do have well water but if city water were available I would subscribe. So far the only city service I have is the tax and cable. I don’t think I have many buildings codes imposed either, but the State has some. I lived much farther out 40 years ago on a spring fed creek but they had a rural water district. I live on about the highest point in my area but still there is water less than 30 feet down, I do have neighbors just not real close. The previous owner of my place partialed out pieces of the property and my part is only about three acres but still pretty isolated.


103 posted on 01/31/2021 2:47:03 PM PST by itsahoot (Skill to intrepret auto correct is necessary to read my posts, understanding them is another matter.)
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To: cgbg

I actually lived without electricity when I was very young, but people today would not survive without it and that is a fact.

Try to get some of them to actually live off the land and kill and dress an animal, any animal. I have been here for a while and people have always said that can never happen here. Well it has happened here and it will get worse and we will still be saying that could never happen here.


104 posted on 01/31/2021 2:51:54 PM PST by itsahoot (Skill to intrepret auto correct is necessary to read my posts, understanding them is another matter.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
More crime is not the only difference Americans notice in large cities.

The rural meth head problem ain't so nice neither. I hated it when my house was stripped of copper pipes, wiring, and they even stole my zero turn! Drove it seven miles down the road to the next town over and nobody in the area blinked an eye.

105 posted on 01/31/2021 5:42:49 PM PST by glorgau
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To: TalBlack

you can have all the guns you want, but as an individual, you are a target........................


106 posted on 01/31/2021 6:03:34 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PGalt

“Rudy gave copies of hard drive to W. Times, Delaware St. police and FBI.”

Hunter’s hard drive, right? Why should that prevent him on this case?

And anyhow, if Rudy had the hard drive, he should’ve released EVERYTHING a month before the election. Why didn’t he?


107 posted on 01/31/2021 6:09:24 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (They HAD to kill somebody for their plan to work. RIP Ashli.)
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To: PGalt

How did the lake freeze? Are the nights not warm enough to melt them now? I thought the anti fossil fuel crowd said that the ice is melting off the entire Earth.


108 posted on 01/31/2021 7:24:03 PM PST by RipSawyer (I'm all out of sarc tags.)
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To: gitmo

Look for Ebola bumper stickers. And Subarus.


109 posted on 01/31/2021 8:19:51 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Kaslin
Americans who live in rural and some suburban areas are executing a secession of their own. They are disassociating themselves from the lifestyles, cultural mores, laws, and self-inflicted wounds exhibited in our large cities.

Bingo; but I'm still downwind of any fallout that may come in the future.

110 posted on 02/01/2021 5:15:14 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: PeterPrinciple

YES!

I’ve noticed the young speaking up when I wear my Army gear or my AF hat.


111 posted on 02/01/2021 5:22:03 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: null and void

112 posted on 02/01/2021 5:27:25 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: itsahoot
Most country dwellers could not live without electricity or even public water for many of them.

Gosh; that's too bad.


113 posted on 02/01/2021 5:31:31 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

As you say, people need encouragement.


114 posted on 02/01/2021 5:33:18 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: exDemMom

Pfft!

CHOICE has killed 62.5 million...

so far...

115 posted on 02/01/2021 5:37:15 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ridesthemiles

...run by electricity.


116 posted on 02/01/2021 5:39:53 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: gitmo

Two nights ago; I was on my laptop on FR when the lights went out.

My screen stayed on because of the battery.

I sez to myself, “No problemo, as the fiber optic to my house has a battery backed up converter, so I’m good to play in the dark.”

HEY! Where’s my Internet!!??!!

Turns out my router does not have a backup battery - so game over (unless I want to run an ethernet cable from router to laptop.)


117 posted on 02/01/2021 5:45:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Big Red Badger

indeed


118 posted on 02/01/2021 5:46:19 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: exDemMom

My risk of dying is 100%

It might be covid that does it.


119 posted on 02/01/2021 5:48:58 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Psalm 139:16 niv

Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.


120 posted on 02/01/2021 5:51:17 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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