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How DJT Lost the White House, November 3 – December 23: All the President’s Team(s)
Deep Capture ^ | 01 27 2021 | Patrick Byrne

Posted on 01/28/2021 1:45:51 AM PST by yesthatjallen

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To: Georgia Girl 2

I don’t need to be “believed.” I am only repeating observable, irrefutable facts. I’m not making a case or an argument for something that is up for debate.

Whereas as you are making things up and/or repeating things from alien enthusiasts that clearly did not happen, are not happening, and will not happen.


181 posted on 01/29/2021 6:22:07 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Being a troll would require things being said that aren’t true to disrupt the forum. One of the two of us has been repeatedly spreading misinformation - and that hasn’t been me.


182 posted on 01/29/2021 6:27:33 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: DoodleDawg

Oops, I did get that one wrong...which only further belies how warped the contention is that he remains head of FEMA, as he left that post to be the acting DHS secretary. It was actually Bob Fenton who took over as head of FEMA after Gaynor left that post and remains in that position now. David Pekoske is who took over for Gaynor had acting secretary of DHS.


183 posted on 01/29/2021 6:41:10 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: DoodleDawg

Oops, I did get that one wrong...which only further belies how warped the contention is that he remains head of FEMA, as he left that post to be the acting DHS secretary. It was actually Bob Fenton who took over as head of FEMA after Gaynor left that post and remains in that position now. David Pekoske is who took over for Gaynor as acting secretary of DHS.


184 posted on 01/29/2021 6:41:47 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Georgia Girl 2

And you know how ridiculous it is to suggest Pete Gaynor is still in charge of FEMA? Because he left the position even while Trump was still President to be the acting DHS Secretary for the remainder of Trump’s term as of 1/12/2021. FEMA director wasn’t even his most recent position. When he left FEMA to be DHS Secretary he was succeeded by Bob Fenton. He was succeeded as acting DHS Secretary by David Pekoske.


185 posted on 01/29/2021 6:48:17 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

Waaa! Teacher she just won’t listen to me. Waaa!


186 posted on 01/29/2021 9:22:26 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Waaa! Teacher she just won’t listen to me. Waaa!

Well, you can be childish all you want to. The fact remains the things I say are factually accurate, and the things you say are entirely false. That is reality.

Grow up and deal with it.

187 posted on 01/30/2021 5:21:59 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: PIF
Possible candidate for Mediocrity = Jenna Ellis, a lawyer, fits the position as one of the only two people to brief DJT.

She's a good guess. Her career as a government lawyer in Colorado lasted six months as a prosecutor on what I would call taking plea bargains in petty cases. She was fired after that. She has zero experience litigating in federal court. A jail house lawyer filing habeas corpus petitions had more experience in federal court than she did. She also appears to have no experience litigating election issues to prepare her for illegality and fraud on this scale. A mediocrity would sum her up well. Of course, she is a lawyer and she took the case, which is more than large law firms did. She also ticks the box of being a woman, and appealing to that group for PR. From her WP profile, she appears to be single, and fits the description of a person who spends valuable time chatting with the opposite sex.

This account seems to answer all the questions that everyone was asking about why ‘super lawyer’ Rudi was going nowhere and the evidence was never heard in court and all the illogical crap that surrounded the whole affair.

Rudi made a decision to litigate that governors, secretaries of state, or other executive branch officials didn't run legal elections, rather than fraud which is harder to prove in large numbers, at least quickly. According to Dershowitz, Trump should have won PA and WI on those grounds at SCOTUS, but unless another state could have been flipped that way, it wouldn't change the election results. Rudi's backup plan was to convince the state legislatures to decertify the executive branch's electors, and appoint there own. SCOTUS precedent is that they can do this if they want, for any reason. Rudi lost that battle too. Maria Zack says Rudi told her that she was the last hope after that with the Italian connection. That story got censored in the U.S. media, and USAToday "debunked" it without ever calling her. So Nothing went right.

The last option was the E.O.'s on election interference and invoking the Insurrection Act. Sideny Powell and Gen. Flynn had that all prepared and ready to go: call in the U.S. Marshalls to seize or copy the ballots, and have the N.G. count, and revote if merited. According to Powell, Mark Meadows shot down that idea, and limited her access to Trump. POTUS has a responsibility to protect and defend the U.S. Constitution, and that obligation doesn't change because he may have a personal interest in the election. My advice to Trump would have been to seize the ballots and the machines and let history judge him according to the results. Unfortunately, the longer taking control of those things was delayed, the longer the cheaters had to change and hide the evidence. Just as those who second guess Nixon say he should have burned the tapes citing "national security", Trump will be second guessed for not grabbing the ballots and voting machines citing "national security".

We have now reached the point where we can no longer believe that we can "vote the bums out". That means we need 67 state legislatures to demand a second constitutional convention to address election integrity, since Congress will never do it. People must get involved at the state and local level for this to happen. Economic boycotts can also create political pressure to address the issue. Otherwise, the alternative way to restore our Republic is quite drastic.
188 posted on 01/30/2021 6:40:24 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Dr. Franklin
That means we need 67 state legislatures to demand a second constitutional convention to address election integrity, since Congress will never do it.

Brain cramp. I was thinking of the Senate. Article V requires 2/3 of state legislatures to call for a constitutional convention. So we need 34 state legislatures to call for a constitutional convention on that issue. It would then require 3/4, 38 to ratify such an amendment. Winning state legislatures is key to this, and it shouldn't be just a Republican issue. The Bernie Bros know he got screwed at least once, if not twice, out of the Dem nomination. They should have an interest in this too.
189 posted on 01/30/2021 6:56:52 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Dr. Franklin

That means we need 67 state legislatures to demand a second constitutional convention to address election integrity


Unfortunately, most republicans and conservatives work for a living and despite their desire, relatively few would be able to attend. No so for the Democrats, many who work for NGOs and those living off trust funds would be there in abundance. In the end whatever document they produce would be filled with inanities and resemble the Russian Constitution which can be amended at will by the legislature.

As for Jena - there were only two lawyers that reported directly to DJT, Rudi and Jena. Byrne says Rudi and the Mediocrity met with DJT - leaving no doubt as to the identity of the Mediocrity.

At this point and given my 25 years unsuccessfully battling these people from Federal court to SCOTUS, from high level meetings to the written word, from personal involvement to group involvement, I’m leaning to drastic


190 posted on 01/30/2021 7:05:06 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Waaa! Teacher she has no respect for my uninformed agenda. Waaa! 😥


191 posted on 01/30/2021 7:19:25 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Dr. Franklin

67 state legislatures??????

50 states - Are you counting both Houses in the state legislatures ?

Note Nebraska has a unicameral legislature.

So 2/3’rd of 99 = 66


192 posted on 01/30/2021 7:31:42 AM PST by Reily
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To: PIF
Unfortunately, most republicans and conservatives work for a living and despite their desire, relatively few would be able to attend. No so for the Democrats, many who work for NGOs and those living off trust funds would be there in abundance. In the end whatever document they produce would be filled with inanities and resemble the Russian Constitution which can be amended at will by the legislature.

They wouldn't need to be great in number, just ordinary people who understand the present system in sham and fraud. They could be retired folks. I think the focus needs to be on election integrity and transparency. We should reach out to the Bernie Bros with a simple argument: "You know the Dems rigged the primaries, and we know they rigged the general election. Let's work together and fix this." It could work if the focus is limited to that issue. If people think they can force all kinds of amendments that don't have broad support, it won't work. Four more state legislatures (38) would need to approve an amendment than are needed to call the convention (34). This can't get crazy.

As for Jena - there were only two lawyers that reported directly to DJT, Rudi and Jena. Byrne says Rudi and the Mediocrity met with DJT - leaving no doubt as to the identity of the Mediocrity.

It may be that Jena only lasted six months as a prosecutor because she had ethical problems with a criminal justice system where everyone is guilty, only the worst criminals ever see a jury, and doesn't function as intended. It may well be that she was the best lawyer for the job, because so many others wouldn't take the case. People miss the fact that Trump's case wasn't popular and law firms didn't want to touch the case, some did quit. Getting lawyers to do what the client wants can be very difficult. They have their own ideas about what they will do, and frequently won't do the client's bidding.

At this point and given my 25 years unsuccessfully battling these people from Federal court to SCOTUS, from high level meetings to the written word, from personal involvement to group involvement, I’m leaning to drastic

I've been at it longer than you, and yes I well know the way to SCOTUS. Fundamentally, our governing elite doesn't get it. There are still a few peaceful options remaining and we need to exhaust them. An economic boycott can make a statement, even if CJ Roberts thinks we can be taxed on money we don't spend.
193 posted on 01/30/2021 7:38:17 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Reily
67 state legislatures??????

See my correction at 189:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3929547/posts?page=189#189
194 posted on 01/30/2021 7:41:11 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: PIF; Yo-Yo; yesthatjallen; Gratia; fieldmarshaldj; LS
Anyone who is concerned about the future of America, and how what happend COULD happen, needs to invest an hour or two of the 168 hours God gives us each week, to read this story (and maybe read it again) AND Byrne's background. It's a strategy similar to reading Atlas Shrugged and then The Passion of Ayn Rand - a sort-of natural hedge against ingesting biased data or engaging in hero-worship.

My assessment (not that anyone cares) is if you take Byrne's account and remove the self-aggrandized bits and his weakness for affinity-bias, you get a VERY compelling picture of what likely happened. In short, Trump put too much faith into a clearly feeble Rudy (who wasn't cut out for the job, and frankly looked on TV to be only few years behind Biden on the Pathway to "huh?") and an incompetent set of bureaucrats. Byrne's account is VERY accurate for those of us who've seen good and bad "war room" types of operations. His observation about law firm management is spot-on.

I doubt very much the "look at how badazz I am" dimension of his Thanksgiving Day dressing down of the Mediocrity though he strikes me as the type of guy who likely gave the Mediocrity a piece of his mind. It's also very likely that Powell and Byrne share a similar mindset and that affinity-bias likely clouds any related objectivity in his accounting.

But these are details. The incompetence detailed in this account rings very true. Yes, the law breakers are the guilty parties. They had the upper hand, and clearly also had many tentacles. But three teams beat the Pats in the Super Bowl over the years...an outstanding defense with bright people hungry for truth may have made a difference. Sadly, it seems same part of the President's brain that gave us Sessions likely gave us Rudy.

195 posted on 01/30/2021 7:58:54 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: yesthatjallen

“the office building”

This may be a building in Arlington, VA; and the same base for WINRED, the Republican National Committee (plus Senators and Representatives who participate / partake) money machine.

It seems, that the RNC tends to insist, that if you run for office under the GOP(e) umbrella, then donations to your campaign / cause, “need to” go into the WINRED funnel.

That includes, the WINRED Terms of Service and Privacy Policy

https://winred.com/terms/donor-terms/

https://winred.com/privacy/

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CANCEL a recurring subscription

https://donors.winred.com/en/articles/3767222-cancel-a-recurring-subscription

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Jan. 14, 2021

Stripe Bans Trump, but Donations Still Come Through

Stripe Inc. has stopped processing payments for President Trump’s fundraising apparatus. Directly, that is.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/stripes-ban-on-trump-campaign-isnt-absolute-11610632728

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November 2, 2020 By: Alex Torres

ActBlue vs WinRed: Compare the Biden and Trump campaigns’ digital experience

ActBlue vs WinRed: Comparing the Biden and Trump campaigns’ digital donor experience

https://www.quantummetric.com/blog/actblue-vs-winred-trump-biden-campaign-fundraising/

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196 posted on 01/30/2021 8:08:28 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: Dr. Franklin

I’ve been at it longer than you, and yes I well know the way to SCOTUS. Fundamentally, our governing elite doesn’t get it. There are still a few peaceful options remaining and we need to exhaust them. An economic boycott can make a statement, even if CJ Roberts thinks we can be taxed on money we don’t spend.

Our governing elite does get it - its the public that doesn’t get it.

Those 25 plus years were from really 1972-2003. After that time it was apparent, all peaceful options having been exhausted, there was no viable non-drastic solution.

Get back to me when: your case in front of SCOTUS is fundamentally altered on the spot before you can argue your case and has just been rendered moot;
when you are declared legally the wrong race to practice your profession; when you are told others have superior rights and are your masters, to whom you must submit; you have been served by federal marshals; when lower courts knowingly over-rule SCOTUS without repercussions; been sent to federal prison for the crime of (whatever your profession may be); had co-workers murdered and maimed for life; had .50 locked and loaded M2’s aim at you by nervous 19 year old soldiers; when your home and work place are firebombed; when you receive death treats and are called vile names in the newspapers and from church pulpits and; because of all of that, lose your wife, children and home.

Let me know how it goes for you. Because that. and worse. is what’s coming. down the pike. for you and yours.


197 posted on 01/30/2021 8:32:40 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: DoodleBob

And, swilling in the background, is the erstwhile Royal Couple who got $100 million for the “stop the steal”, but then did not release a penny - who sabotaged DJT with bad advise on hires (like Sessions and Rex) only a Democrat or Deep Stater would love. The incompetence was the end goal for those two NY Dems ...


198 posted on 01/30/2021 8:40:36 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: DoodleBob
It's also very likely that Powell and Byrne share a similar mindset and that affinity-bias likely clouds any related objectivity in his accounting.

I am of the opinion that the road not taken, invoking the Insurrection Act and the foreign interference E.O.'s, was the only way to break the catch-22 of courts not acting for lack of evidence, and the election boards hiding the evidence. That puts me in the camp of Powell and Gen. Flynn. What was the down side to that, that Pelosi would impeach Trump a second time? It was the only option, and it wasn't used, and it should have been to verify not only the presidential elections, but also the Congressional results in places like AZ and MI.
199 posted on 01/30/2021 9:07:45 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: DoodleBob

This-—with all your qualifications, which are accurate-—speaks to Trump’s greatest weakness as president, his personnel selection.

I’m a little surprised, but it suggests he ran the Trump org with one right-hand man and the kids. His picks at AG, SecState, FBI, CIA, Chief of Staff, NSA, and White House spokesman (til Sanders and McElenny (sp) were flat horrible. Pompeo was great, but he had to go through Tillerson first. Barrstool was as bad, if not worse than Sessions-—with the exception that they really did a great deal on child trafficking. De Vos was ok, Zincke and Ross were great, but SecDefs were bad. Omarosa was a joke. He shouldn’t have kept Ronna McDaniel the first time, let alone the second.

You wonder how he achieved so much in private business without being able to read people better.

Some of it is explainable by wanting to rally Republicans behind him; maybe some is that he thought they’d see how quickly he was succeeding and pitch in for America. Maybe he couldn’t afford to put someone like Cruz in a key position (maybe Cruz didn’t want it) and maybe some senators were afraid of costing Rs the majority. But whatever the explanation, the jury is still out on the USSC justices and the “must have” control positions in gubment were for the most part bad choices.


200 posted on 01/30/2021 11:53:58 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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