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To: SeekAndFind

Two issues:

1. For the first couple of cycles, conservatives will be shut out completely, and the Dems may get supermajorities as the dust setttles.

2. We still don’t have the fix for the leftists CHEATING at the polls.


2 posted on 01/19/2021 9:24:05 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Dr. Sivana

*uck it. Sometimes you have to take tactical defeats in the short term to win ultimately in the long term. George Washington and the Continental Army. Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Cong.


8 posted on 01/19/2021 9:26:45 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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Who would remain in the GOP? Linda? Mitch? Mitt? Dick’s daughter Lynn? They’re not popular with the base anyway.


11 posted on 01/19/2021 9:28:17 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Dr. Sivana; SeekAndFind
I'm in.

I think the third box is about to be opened, though.

15 posted on 01/19/2021 9:34:00 PM PST by Eagles6
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"We still don’t have the fix for the leftists CHEATING at the polls."

Your right, we don't have "the fix for the leftists CHEATING at the polls" and the GOP ruled by double-dealing snakes like McConnell will never give you one. The GOP will never deliver for patriots because for the past 50 years or more they haven't. Nothing will get better for America until we free ourselves fro and establishment and a political party that hates Americans.

16 posted on 01/19/2021 9:34:14 PM PST by wildcard_redneck ( COVID lockdowns is are the Establishment's attack on the middle class and our Republic)
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If you are referring to the new party gaining seats in the congress, what will happen is that the elites will have to deal with them by committee appointments and negotiating with them.

The best thing is for the new party to take control of the county seats and state legislatures first.

In fact..it could work out that although the national socialists might have a majority, with the new parties seats, they will never have a super majority.

Example-the socialists hold 4 seats, but the elites hold three and the new party holds two.


24 posted on 01/19/2021 9:39:40 PM PST by crz
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I was thinking along the same lines But Trump also talked about primary challenges.

Maybe he is thinking about a party that fights both inside and outside the GOP and pragmatically cannibalizes off of it.


27 posted on 01/19/2021 9:44:42 PM PST by Twitmo (@Tail_Whpper in Gab and the Twit swamp.)
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Here is another way to look at this.

Nigel Farage had UKIP. Although UKIP did not do well in elections-they did have some gains, it caused BREXIT and it caused the Labour party to just about collapse. EVEN with a “conservative” Prime minister-May, who was a useless as all get out, Farage managed to be the point of the spear in winning the BREXIT.

I would strongly urge the Donald to have Farage advise him on this since the man is a political genius.

31 posted on 01/19/2021 9:48:19 PM PST by crz
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As it is said that when the midterm comes up, it is the party in power that WILL GET SLAMMED.


32 posted on 01/19/2021 9:48:39 PM PST by Biggirl ("Iden One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians-4:6)
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As it is said that when the midterm comes up, it is the party in power that WILL GET SLAMMED.


33 posted on 01/19/2021 9:48:39 PM PST by Biggirl ("Iden One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians-4:6)
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...Dems may get supermajorities

This should scare the living daylights out of any reasonable person. They get to propose amendments once they hit 2/3s and can impeach and remove anybody they feel like.

58 posted on 01/19/2021 10:05:47 PM PST by Nateman (Keep Liberty Alive! Article V)
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...Dems may get supermajorities

This should scare the living daylights out of any reasonable person. They get to propose amendments once they hit 2/3s and can impeach and remove anybody they feel like.

62 posted on 01/19/2021 10:10:53 PM PST by Nateman (Keep Liberty Alive! Article V)
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1. For the first couple of cycles, conservatives will be shut out completely, and the Dems may get supermajorities as the dust setttles.

2. We still don’t have the fix for the leftists CHEATING at the polls.

That is right. We don't have a couple of YEARS, let alone a couple of cycles!

He STILL doesn't understand politics. Or the two party system. For the rest of you, duckduckgo "Duverget's Law". He will ensure Democrat victory until China finishes our fat lazy stupid asses off for good.

He needs to go away. He BLEW IT. And the world will possibly pay its final price. All because he failed to prevent the left from stealing the election. He's a fool who surrounded himself with morons and traitors.

82 posted on 01/19/2021 10:41:10 PM PST by Captainpaintball (I love you, Rush Limbaugh! )
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We don’t need a new party. Trump could put the call out for patriots to run and support other patriots to run in both parties’ primary. Make it the patriot wing of the government. Use the infrastructure that already exists. Put both parties on notice. Then at every election, we count the votes. If they try to throw us out, we are there a thousand strong.


86 posted on 01/19/2021 11:10:50 PM PST by Betty Jane
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On both points: So the ‘solution’ here is to continue to stick with a party largely made of of feckless, weak-kneed, ball-less RINOs and fence riders who sell out to the highest bidder in the hopes they will fix something most of them see no problems with? Yeah, that is like wishing and hoping they will bust up the Big Tech monopolies that are now openingly killing your freedom of speech rights, yeah?

No, not happening, at all.


88 posted on 01/19/2021 11:19:31 PM PST by cranked
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The fix for #2 can be found in Springfield, MA.

After fixing #2, the landscape surrounding #1 will be substantially improved.

So, here’s the thing: you wanna see Washington DC Beltway type zhit a gold brick, you let Trump start a new party, and listen to the gnashing of teeth as the GOP suffers the instantaneous loss of 70M voters. Wouldn’t be anyone left, but the worthless RINOs, and who’d give a f’k fit them?

Best way I can figure to rid Conservatism of wishy-washy, mealy-mouthed, bend-over-and-take-it appeasemet monkeys is LEAVE the lot of them to own an entire, nationwide, de-funded, GOP apparatus doomed to sink in red ink.


92 posted on 01/20/2021 12:30:58 AM PST by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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"We still don’t have the fix for the leftists CHEATING at the polls."

Patriots need to start applying for jobs as poll workers. That way, they do the counting.

94 posted on 01/20/2021 12:57:57 AM PST by familyop
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"For the first couple of cycles, conservatives will be shut out completely, and the Dems may get supermajorities as the dust setttles."

Bernie's horde would then demand that the Democrat vampires turn on their foolish, plutocratic donors and suck them dry. If they refused, we know what would happen. ;D


96 posted on 01/20/2021 1:07:27 AM PST by familyop
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I’m done bring a GOP stooge. I will never vote the Quisling Ticket again. I will have no problem voting for individuals or parties that, if they choose, can form coalitions with Republicans who might buck the uniparty.


110 posted on 01/20/2021 2:39:46 AM PST by hardspunned (MAGA, now more than ever)
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A pragmatic new party would trade their support for the VP slot of the repub party, if their numbers looked concerning prior to the election.


116 posted on 01/20/2021 3:26:27 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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I agree, the voting procedures in certain States need to be remedied.

The cheating at the polls must MUST be fixed on the State level.

States control and set the rules and methods.

So the rule of thumb applies, all politics are local.


122 posted on 01/20/2021 3:54:57 AM PST by David Chase
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