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Let's get real Pence could not give the Presidency to Trump

Posted on 01/12/2021 7:30:24 PM PST by springwater13

A couple things would have happened if Pence unilaterally ignored the election results in the Senate.

1) The Democrats would immediately sue and it would go before the Supreme Court within 24 hours and overturned. Even a Republican Majority could not allow it as it would create the Precedent of any future Democrat Vice President being given the authority to unilaterally void an electoral college and Congressional certification vote. It was always a ludicrous argument.

2) Pence would be promptly impeached by Pelosi and likely would have to resign or face a Senate trial.

The only thing it may have done was stop the riot and insurrection and make Pence a folk hero to millions and likely 2024 front runner in the primary. It wouldn't have given Trump a second term though.


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To: LongWayHome

Good observation.


61 posted on 01/12/2021 8:03:00 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (The 2020 election Trump victory determines the fate f America and Freedom.)
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To: springwater13

Pence is either a VERY GOOD undercover operative, or he is a seditious traitor.

I know where Lin Wood leans.

We will find out for sure when the shit hits the fan.


62 posted on 01/12/2021 8:03:22 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: lodi90


AWOL - YES!

He was straightening out the Poster of Karl Rove over his bed.


63 posted on 01/12/2021 8:04:38 PM PST by AnthonySoprano (‘)
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To: semimojo

Doesnt matter..if he sent it back they would have the OPPORTUNIT to respond and be public about their submission


64 posted on 01/12/2021 8:05:11 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (The 2020 election Trump victory determines the fate f America and Freedom.)
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To: springwater13

Three things.

Number 1. Where did you get your law degree? You’ll forgive me if I take the word of legal experts over yours.

2. It’s not enough that Mike Pence betrayed President Trump and betrayed the country by accepting fraudulent votes, he is proving how big a traitor he is by attending the Biden inauguration.

3. You’re full of crap.


65 posted on 01/12/2021 8:05:47 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Trump is a deposed Pres. in exile. America is truly a banana republic. Our govt. has been overthrown)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Trump may have inadvertently done more for the nation by losing

Maybe. I was thinking about Churchill. Many blame his loss in 1945, for attacking Labour as Socialists, and specifically referring to them as the "Gestapo" so soon after the war had ended. That did not sit well, even with many of his fellow Tories. So they lose the election, and everybody thought Churchill was finished.

He was back at 10 Downing Street in 1951.

66 posted on 01/12/2021 8:06:04 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

No they were asking him to adhere to the rules set forth by the constitution. He did not. He knew the electors from the Sox states were not legal as they were sent up by the governers and NOT their legislatures as required by the constitution. Not only did pence stab the president in the back. He was the one who pulled the trigger in negating the Constitution.


67 posted on 01/12/2021 8:06:38 PM PST by Bjorn218
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To: OldGoatCPO

Part of it was also the background process that removed the alternate electors’ votes from ever making it to Pence

The Electors’ votes go to either the Library of Congress or the National Archives, routed there by an Act I don’t recall the name of right now from the late 1800s. They are kept there and only the votes considered valid from the states continues to the Vice President. Therefore, Mike never saw alternate votes to select—he could only set argued votes aside with what he got.


68 posted on 01/12/2021 8:06:41 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: springwater13

Pence’s fault.
Barr’s fault.
Wray’s fault.
Haspel’s fault.
Gorsuch’s fault.
Kavanaugh’s fault.
Barret’s fault.

I feel like I’m missing someone but I just can’t put my finger on it.


69 posted on 01/12/2021 8:06:52 PM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: AnthonySoprano

Absolutely


70 posted on 01/12/2021 8:07:29 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (The 2020 election Trump victory determines the fate f America and Freedom.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Are there rhinos infiltrating freepr???

They're out tonight on FR. Is it a concerted effort?

It's change-the-facts-about-the-steal night.

71 posted on 01/12/2021 8:08:16 PM PST by FreeReign (Never Forget the Steal)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Have to agree!


72 posted on 01/12/2021 8:08:28 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (The 2020 election Trump victory determines the fate f America and Freedom.)
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To: All

Imagine Tim Kaine doing this to Hillary!

Joe Biden doing this to Barack Obama!

Not in any scenario over a Million years would a Dem do this to a DEM President.

73 posted on 01/12/2021 8:08:36 PM PST by AnthonySoprano (‘)
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To: joma89

Yes, exactly.


74 posted on 01/12/2021 8:09:16 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Bjorn218

Yup


75 posted on 01/12/2021 8:09:19 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (The 2020 election Trump victory determines the fate f America and Freedom.)
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To: springwater13
If you believe Pence as vice-president could have somehow magically decided which electoral slates he would accept from disputed states, then you have to believe that Joe Biden could have done the same thing in the 2016 election and Al Gore could have done the same thing in the 2000 election (when it would have directly benefited him).

There's no question in my mind that Trump was swindled out of the 2020 election. There was fraud. But expecting Pence to somehow go beyond the mandate of his constitutional role to repair the stolen election was absurd - whoever gave Trump that advice did not know what he or she was talking about.
76 posted on 01/12/2021 8:09:21 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: dfwgator

How do you plan to do that given what happened in November? Especially when the democrats are planning on amending the constitution to nullify the electoral congress?


77 posted on 01/12/2021 8:10:33 PM PST by Bjorn218
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To: bramps

Pence’s fault.
Barr’s fault.
Wray’s fault.
Haspel’s fault.
Gorsuch’s fault.
Kavanaugh’s fault.
Barret’s fault.

I feel like I’m missing someone but I just can’t put my finger on it.


Our fault. President Trump has been riding solo in the swamp thanks to the human garbage we elected to represent us in Congress.


78 posted on 01/12/2021 8:11:59 PM PST by lodi90
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To: caww; springwater13

Caww knows more about Ukraine than anyone other than the principals involved.


79 posted on 01/12/2021 8:12:51 PM PST by little jeremiah (Thirst for truth is the most valuable possession and no one can take it away from you.)
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To: AnthonySoprano

Brilliant observation!

Who the hell cares if Pence stalling for a little more time would have changed anything it probably wouldn’t have but it would have highlighted the cheating and not have Pence betraying Trump the way he did ...he could have gone out as a decent person trying his best to be loyal to Trump it would have been no skin off his nose


80 posted on 01/12/2021 8:13:25 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (The 2020 election Trump victory determines the fate f America and Freedom.)
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