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Suspect in custody after shooting at Starrville Methodist church leaves pastor dead
KVUE News - Austin, TX ^ | 3 January 2020 | Reagan Roy, Claire Wallace

Posted on 01/03/2021 11:57:45 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

WINONA, Texas — One person is dead and three more, including the suspect, were injured following a shooting at an East Texas church Sunday morning. According to the Smith County Sheriff's Office, the shooting took place at Starrville Methodist Church, located on Farm-to-Market Road 16 in Winona. The SCSO says the suspect had been hiding in the church's bathroom following a car chase with authorities Saturday night.

The SCSO says the suspect was in a dark Volkswagen Beetle and had a shotgun pointed out the window, but later left the car due to a tire blowout and ran away. Sheriff Smith believes the suspect took shelter in the church sometime between 10:30 p.m. and 9:30 a.m. Early Sunday morning, the church's pastor opened a stall in the bathroom and found the suspect, the SCSO said. According to Sheriff Larry Smith, the pastor was armed, pointed a gun at the suspect and asked him to leave. However, Sheriff Smith says the suspect disarmed the pastor, shot and killed him.

The SCSO says the suspect then stole the pastor's car. The Harrison County Sheriff's Office says the SCSO attempted to stop the vehicle in Smith County, but the driver took off east on Interstate 20. The driver, a 21-year-old Black man, continued driving reaching speeds as high as 120 miles per hour on I-20, according to the HCSO.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: black; church; pastor; shooting
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Preacher didn't have the will to shoot. Sad.
1 posted on 01/03/2021 11:57:45 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Not far from me.

RIP preacher.

Sad news for such a pretty day today.


2 posted on 01/03/2021 12:02:03 PM PST by waterhill (Every Lie Will Be Revealed)
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To: SaveFerris
This stuff seems to never end. Should we start rioting now since a preacher was killed? Hmm?

Another story about the shooting:

Click here for Dallas Morning News story.

3 posted on 01/03/2021 12:02:40 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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“Sheriff Smith says the suspect disarmed the pastor, shot and killed him.”
 

4 posted on 01/03/2021 12:03:44 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Well, when he opened the john stall, he should have backed off and probably was too close and the guy grabbed at the gun hand before the pastor knew what was going on. He was just not prepared for combat. THAT is what it is with these criminals, combat!! Back off, prepare to shoot. Don’t get closer.


5 posted on 01/03/2021 12:09:20 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Free Will. GOD gives you the choice to accept or reject Him! Choose Him. It depends on you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Precisely. You must have resolved that question in your own head before carrying and pulling a weapon. This is one of the key themes in Massad Ayoob’s In the Gravest Extreme, a book I recommend to everyone thinking about carrying a weapon.


6 posted on 01/03/2021 12:10:16 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

[Preacher didn’t have the will to shoot. Sad.]


May not be a question of will. Untrained/unprepared individuals get their cues from TV and the movies. They think outside of far-fetched Mission Impossible/James Bond movies, nobody tries to grab the guns pointed at them. The jogger in Georgia, the gentle giant in Ferguson, MO and now this situation give the lie to this assumption. And on the silver screen, the person holding the gun is usually at arms length relative to the individual on the wrong end of the gun. But that’s in order for the camera to get both of them in the same close-up shot so you can see the actors emote. In reality, you want to keep some distance relative to the other guy so he can’t easily reach over and disarm you.


7 posted on 01/03/2021 12:17:42 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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The driver, a 21-year-old Black man...

Is Black the name of a nearby town? No?

How about we start requiring the race of the perp be printed in ALL CAPS and see how long it takes some folks to catch on?

8 posted on 01/03/2021 12:20:29 PM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

In before the Tuco quote...


9 posted on 01/03/2021 12:30:16 PM PST by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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To: gundog

Because some are “more equal than others”. /s


10 posted on 01/03/2021 12:31:59 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

No doubt the pastor hesitated to shoot. His murderer will be released back into the public in hardly no time.


11 posted on 01/03/2021 1:10:16 PM PST by Revel
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

That is a very sad, crazy story. The whole suspect situation was totally avoidable if they could have tracked him down with a police dog to the church or wherever he was hiding, for how long? Why wasn’t the church notified about the incident from the previous night and that the suspect was still at large? And that it was his car in the parking lot?

I was happy to hear that the pastor was packing, but sad that he was either totally taken by surprise or that he was unwilling to use his firearm.

The only bright spots in this story is :
1. That more were not harmed/died.
2. That we all know where the pastor is right now.
3. That the suspect is now has another chance to turn his life over to Jesus.


12 posted on 01/03/2021 1:21:48 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked (I thank the good Lord everyday that I no longer live in CA. )
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To: waterhill

Me either.


13 posted on 01/03/2021 1:48:41 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked

Amen. Maybe that was the reason he chose not to shoot.


14 posted on 01/03/2021 2:24:22 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The driver, a 21-year-old black man

Fixed it!

15 posted on 01/03/2021 2:36:44 PM PST by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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the pastor was armed, pointed a gun at the suspect and asked him to leave. However, Sheriff Smith says the suspect disarmed the pastor, shot and killed him.

You hesitate, you die.

16 posted on 01/03/2021 2:39:48 PM PST by Drew68
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Preacher didn't have the will to shoot. Sad.

If you don’t have the will to pull the trigger, you shouldn’t even bother owning a gun.

This preacher might still be alive had he not brought a gun he was unprepared to use into the situation.

17 posted on 01/03/2021 2:42:49 PM PST by Drew68
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How do you know that?
He had the drop on the man. How did he know that he was supposed to just kill him?


18 posted on 01/03/2021 2:49:38 PM PST by BDParrish (God called, He said He'd take you back!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

This was a black-on-black incident. Cause of death will be covid.


19 posted on 01/03/2021 3:32:24 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("The more righteous your fight, the more opposition you will face." --Donald J. Trump)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Dang

21 foot rule at a minimum

Poor pastor

Just dang


20 posted on 01/03/2021 3:38:58 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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