Posted on 12/24/2020 2:10:56 AM PST by jmclemore
For those who haven't heard this, Van Jones explains how the swamps worst nightmare could materialize with Trump not conceding.
Video : Van Jones - TED
“I don’t give a shit about Bush/Gore, we didn’t have riots then” - Chief Justice John Roberts
I do not understand your sarcasm or your comment.
We already know Biden will have a majority of Electors.
My point...
What happens if Trump says the election was fraudulent, and he refuses to leave the White House?
Congress cannot impeach him, because he is not President.
The courts cannot rule for or against voter fraud because no one has standing to present a complaint or evidence.
There is no obvious solution to this Constitutional stalemate.
No I don't and I fear you are deluding yourself if you do.
Who will drag him off? Maybe the secret service, maybe the military.
And lastly, yes we will still have a free republic if he leaves. You and I will be free but as always we need to aggressively oppose governmental overreach no matter who is in office. By aggressively I am talking intense civil disobedience and yes, be prepared for the left to counter attack. Will things ever turn into a "hot war"? I sincerely doubt it but to your point, never take anything off of the table.
Mr. Trump, for most of his life, has lived outside of government and it would be hard to fault him for simply getting tired of it and walking away. He doesn’t need the paycheck or the hassle.
But, you’ll have a hard time convincing me that he should be removed if he did choose to stay, impeached or not.
Joe could set up a government in exile in his basement, and we can re-vote again. Tell ya what, I’ll go two outa three.
typical liberal: thinks whatever “tradition” they want to focus on, will supersede the Constitution.
Ugh, not sarcasm. Attempted humor. Sorry you took it that way.
If Trump refuses to accept the results of a legal process and becomes a squatter in the White House (which will never happen) he’ll be escorted out.
IOW, I don’t believe you have presented a legal ambiguity, only an interesting scenario.
But hey, I’m not a lawyer. It’s just an opinion.
The same thing that would happen to you if you walked into the Oval Office during a White House tour and refused to leave.
There is already a constitutional solution.
On Jan 20, 2021, Biden will be sworn in as President. Trump becomes an ex_president. He can be arrested for trespassing.
Thats the spirit.
No, I am with you. Unless he somehow is able to prevail in the courts, it's over.
Hopefully, arrests on Jan 6 will be the “wild” Trump referred to.
But here’s thought regarding impeachment. Impeachment is how you remove a president. How do you impeach a man you will not officially recognize as The President. Until he is declared by “THEM” to be president, they have power of impeachment.
Deep State is running the same playbook run for 0bama, and perhaps countless other times.
Elected Officials knowingly obstruct justice and cover up serious Federal crimes.
Rudy speaks to our God given, natural, rights which cannot be changed or removed by another Man
Sheriff Joe already demonstrated Courts will not entertain these kind of lawsuits. no court would look at evidence 0bama had a fake birth certificate.
Bush and Chenney allowed a usurper to rise to the office of the President.
Here's the reality. These are some possible paths:
We shall see if State or Federal Legislators have the guts.
Insurrection Act/Martial Law "magic" is unclear. Wherever this leads. whoever does not have >=270 EVs, will not be President. That leaves a 12th Amendment solution.
Whoever wins that 12thA contest becomes President. Unless the people are ready to separate or issue a new DOI, these are the options.
“typical liberal: thinks whatever “tradition” they want to focus on, will supersede the Constitution.”
Indeed - the “living document”.
This crew of bridling naysayers are trying to convince themselves.
My experience has been that such people rarely succeed.
On the same Youtube page; The Ingraham Angle 12/28/20 | FOX NEWS Trump BREAKING NEWS December 28,2020; (Harris) start at about 35.15 then listen to the end.
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