Posted on 12/22/2020 2:50:23 PM PST by rxsid
Pence May Reject Biden’s Fraudulent Electors
Firebrand and freedom fighter Boris Epshteyn, a Trump 2020 adviser, is working overtime through the holidays to legally prove election fraud and rightfully overturn the results, namely, in Arizona.
Epshteyn, a regular guest on Steve Bannon’s “War Room,” said during his latest appearance on the number one political podcast in the country, that Vice President Mike Pence may reject the slate of electors he finds fraudulent during a joint session of Congress on January 6.
Boris was responding to a question about how President Trump can still prevail.
“So when the time comes on January 6…” the Vice President can count the “correct electors…the electors based on the most legal votes,” Epshteyn said on Steve Bannon’s “War Room” podcast. “Let not forget that a week ago today, the Trump electors were sent to Congress…along with the Biden electors,” he continued. Epshteyn later said the Trump team is prepared to fight well past January 6 if Congress cannot certify a winner.
This is significant since Vice President Mike Pence is tasked with reading each states’ electors into the official record during the Joint Session of Congress on January 6.
Some legal scholars have argued that where there are disputes over electors, the vice president has the legal authority to read into the record only that slate of electors which he believes is correct.
There’s discrepancy between legal scholars who say the vice president has no such power and may only read the slate of electors transmitted to the Congress by state officials. The answer to who wields this power or not falls within the open question of law that must be decided by the Supreme Court of the United States.
SCOTUS has never ruled on this issue in history. However, if Pence rejects some of Joe Biden’s electors, this could be the first time in history the highest court in the nation resolves this question.
Not legally he can't.
Well if any of them do so then you can you say you told be so.
It was just pointed out the swamp buried a provision in the Covid bill to preclude that.
State legislature...
That said, no state is going to do that barring a totally unforseen miracle."
And as I've stated here repeated, it's a matter of will.
If everyone surrenders, the legislatures will naturally fold as well.
There are 2 things that elected politicians respond to. 1. Money. 2. Public pressure, especially from their constituents.
If they feel enough public pressure from their constituents, it will happen.
There have been several state hearings on the issue of fraud. Think those hearings would happen without public pressure?
There have been legislatures who have said they will continue to fight. Think they would go there without public pressure?
People looking for 100% certainties need to gain some resolve.
looking around to see if valid
chuck callesto (blue check marked) says it is included
“nullifies the presidents use of the Insurrection Act”
I am lazy so do your own research as I do not claim this is true..just put stuff out there for people who are interested
I dont want to read this bill..it infuriates me
Yeah? Another reason to VETO that bill full of pork.
In an extra-constitutional environment VP Pence has every duty to disrupt this fraud. If I was he, I wouldn't even enter the chamber until this fraud is addressed. What are they going to do? Impeach him? Stop the steal!
This!!!! Eliminate any electoral votes from said States. Not sure how many this eliminates, but it should provide President Trump with a clear majority of the remaining electors.
How many times does it have to be pointed out to you, that the VP has no duty to perpetrate a fraud?
lin wood retweeting insurrection covid claim but I dont trust his sourcing..he is still trying to claim that Chief Justice flew to Epstein Island and we easily debunked that here
Then don't show up and let Grassley run the count on January 6th.
“He can reject electors that he believes are illegal.”
In defiance of the Constitution which says he *shall* open all envelopes containing elector slates?
Isn’t he pledged to defend the Constitution?
As for you, you’re not pledged to defend our Constitution and , I assume, you’re just speaking in heat and haste.
Sorry to have provided an alternate point of view. I will be more careful in future.
I admit to a visceral dislike of Cornell interpretations based on Cornell’s effect on my eldest son.
“Ugh. Grasping at straws.”
Yep. And one day one straw is going to break the Constitution.
The event on January 6th in congress is NOT in a court of law. Therefore legal or not is irrelevant according to constitution. The framers were smart to SPECIFICALLY leave courts out of the event on January 6th.
The framers of constitution left the final say to the state legislatures in choosing electors.
Lin wood’s tweet refers to Chuck Callesto’s tweet that the there would be changes to the insurrection act (I believe Congress would have to approve it beyond 14 days for an earlier June 2020 defense bill).
I grant you that suspicion of Cornell's conclusions or Cornell's analysis may be warranted, depending on the circumstances. But the law is the law, and regardless of Cornell's biases I have no reason to believe that they did not post the law accurately word for word. And the powers and duties of the Senate and the House are clearly stated.
I grant you that suspicion of Cornell's conclusions or Cornell's analysis may be warranted, depending on the circumstances. But the law is the law, and regardless of Cornell's biases I have no reason to believe that they did not post the law accurately word for word. And the powers and duties of the Senate and the House are clearly stated.
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