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The ICU's were busy in 2018 too. A busy flu season is nothing new...but the media would like you to forget.
Time Magazine ^ | Amanda Macmillian

Posted on 12/08/2020 4:11:28 PM PST by 2clever

The 2017-2018 influenza epidemic is sending people to hospitals and urgent-care centers in every state, and medical centers are responding with extraordinary measures: asking staff to work overtime, setting up triage tents, restricting friends and family visits and canceling elective surgeries, to name a few. Tallia says his hospital is “managing, but just barely,” at keeping up with the increased number of sick patients in the last three weeks. The hospital’s urgent-care centers have also been inundated, and its outpatient clinics have no appointments available.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2018; covid; faketitle; firstpost; flashback; learnhowtopost; noobpost; noobvanity; oldnews; vanity; welcometofr
Nothing new under the sun. The media was hyping the 2018 flu season....they obviously improved their game.
1 posted on 12/08/2020 4:11:28 PM PST by 2clever
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To: 2clever

A good year for Batesville Casket here in Indiana.
And likely helping the financials of the Soc Sec system.
Maybe that’s offset by Medicare costs?


2 posted on 12/08/2020 4:13:35 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: 2clever

Our won elected officials and governmet is killing its people, its time we take it back and punish those responsible!


3 posted on 12/08/2020 4:14:03 PM PST by ronnie raygun ( Massive mistakes are made by arrogant fools; massive evils are committed by evil people.")
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To: 2clever

Historically, hospitals have considerably more patients during flu season.

Also, read this article. It appears the total of deaths from ALL causes this year (including COVID) is not much different from total deaths from ALL causes in previous years

https://web.archive.org/web/20201126223119/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19


4 posted on 12/08/2020 4:33:13 PM PST by elpadre
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To: 2clever

Here in Macon, Ga, the hospitals and ERs were slap full in Dec 2019 - March 2020. I know because an elderly loved one went to the ER multiple times in this time span and had to wait for a room, sometimes on a gurney in the hallway. She ended up dying from the flu/pneumonia in April 2020 (she had multiple covid tests).


5 posted on 12/08/2020 4:36:45 PM PST by a real Sheila (WuFlu be gone!)
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To: elpadre

These are Oregon total death stats for past several years, ....THIS tells the TRUTH...each State likely has similar stats...a “friend” on MEWE posted this...

From the Oregon website, the number of total DEATHS since 2015. Here you go:
2015- 35,709
2016- 35,799
2017- 36,640
2018- 36,191
2019- 37,397
And here you go...YEAR TO DATE
(December 1) 2020........32,330!

And for this we are allowing a tyrannical Governor to destroy our state??? I for one, am not going to be quiet. You better research the “plan” and make some NOISE!!!
Go ahead and fact check here:point_down::point_down::point_down:
https://www.oregon.gov/oha/ph/birthdeathcertificates/vitalstatistics


6 posted on 12/08/2020 4:40:23 PM PST by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: 2clever

COVID-19 Pt. 2: CDC’s New “PIC” and The Hidden Data:

“Most people aren’t aware that the CDC has lumped influenza together with Covid and pneumonia in death rates with a new name called “PIC.” This comes after the CDC confirmed that only 6% of Covid-related death certificates indicate Covid as the only cause, while 94% list other illnesses as the cause with an average of 2.6 comorbidities.” ~~

https://www.coreysdigs.com/health-science/covid-19-pt-2-cdcs-new-pic-and-the-hidden-data/

The Johns Hopkins Newsletter: A closer look at U.S. deaths due to COVID-19:

” ... the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19. This suggests,according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratorydiseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be recategorized as being due to COVID-19.”

~~ https://corona-transition.org/IMG/pdf/a_closer_look_at_u.s.deaths_due_to_covid-19-_the_johns_hopkins_news-letter.pdf


7 posted on 12/08/2020 4:45:40 PM PST by true believer forever (Fight the Attacks against Trump: PLANT YOUR FEET, LEAN INTO IT, BEAT IT BACK. )
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To: 2clever

I have had horrible back pain the past 3 day. Up at 4:30am barely able to move. My doc...including local clinics would NOT take me because of the scare.

Finally went to an ER the next town over and got a sterod shot.

Unreal.

Other people have needs as well.


8 posted on 12/08/2020 5:00:08 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: 2clever

Our own fellow citizens who think they know better

Are now paid to lie to us

And get angry when we dont believe the lies


9 posted on 12/08/2020 5:23:54 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Reminds me, throughout the past couple decades, every time I took someone to the ER and they were admitted all the beds were ‘full’ already. They had to wait hours for someone to get discharged before they could get a room.


10 posted on 12/08/2020 5:31:15 PM PST by TianaHighrider (God bless President Trump. Prayers for PDJT and his loyal supporters.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Other people have needs as well.

No, they will have to wait with their cancer, heart problems, liver issues, blot clots, high blood pressure and BS problems. COVID is where the Sh*t got REAL!

11 posted on 12/08/2020 5:34:38 PM PST by frogjerk
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To: 2clever

I went to the emergency room for flu in January 2018 . Was having trouble breathing.

Never made into the emergency room.

They had setup a triage out in the waiting room where one waits for people to be discharged from hospital room after an operation.

Anyway, the emergency room was full and so was this triage.

Saw the doctor 2 minutes. “Come back if it gets worse” was all he said.


12 posted on 12/08/2020 5:46:01 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Vendome

H1N1 in 2011. Acute Respiratory Distress. If I presented now as I did then, I would surely had been intubated. (Have lung scarring now)


13 posted on 12/08/2020 6:08:06 PM PST by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule)
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To: frogjerk

My NP was annoyed as hell that other problems are “second fiddle” with these places.

I was lucky to get the treatment I did.

The steroid shot and Norco tab seemed to help. Earlier muscle relaxers didn’t do crap. And that was a full tab. I always take half because they make me so woozy.


14 posted on 12/08/2020 6:43:02 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

ping...


15 posted on 12/08/2020 6:55:03 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: ronnie raygun
Easy to say...........hard to do.........Have you ever pulled a trigger on another Human Being?

Just asking...

16 posted on 12/08/2020 7:37:11 PM PST by M-cubed (The MSM is now the 4th Branch of Government.....)
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To: 2clever

Whoa!!

Did my eyes see the source right? Time Magazine?

OOPS, 2clever got too clever by substituting his headline, for the one from the article. Not that what you said isn’t true, just that Time would never put out such a headline,


17 posted on 12/08/2020 9:09:27 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: elpadre
It appears the total of deaths from ALL causes this year (including COVID) is not much different from total deaths from ALL causes in previous years

If you want to see what the CDC website actually says about that, the information is at this link. Scroll down to the graph that says, "Weekly number of deaths (from all causes)". It goes back to January 2017, so it includes the excess deaths from the 2017-2018 flu season.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

18 posted on 12/08/2020 9:24:48 PM PST by Hepsabeth ( )
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