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Michigan: Statistical dead heat. Biden 48.7% - Trump 47.1%
Trafalgar Group ^ | 09/30/2020 | Trafalgar Group

Posted on 09/30/2020 8:36:34 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas

Our @trafalgar_group #2020Election #MIchigan #Presidential #poll conducted for @restorationpac Sep 26-28 shows small Biden lead:

48.7% @JoeBiden, 47.1% @realDonaldTrump, 1.5% @Jorgensen4POTUS, 1.1% all others, 1.6% Und.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: michigan; poll; polls
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1 posted on 09/30/2020 8:36:34 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas
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To: SpeedyInTexas

What is the trend on this poll?


2 posted on 09/30/2020 8:37:14 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: FlipWilson

Trump was up 0.7% in last poll. Biden gained 2.3%


3 posted on 09/30/2020 8:42:20 AM PDT by nbenyo
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To: nbenyo

Well, that isn’t good.


4 posted on 09/30/2020 8:45:06 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Trump needs to win by at least 2% to overcome massive “mail-in” ballot fraud.


5 posted on 09/30/2020 8:45:15 AM PDT by montag813 (Nonsenze)
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To: FlipWilson

yeah it’s the end of the world.

go worry for a month


6 posted on 09/30/2020 8:46:14 AM PDT by dp0622 (I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABO UT THE COVID GODFATHER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!)
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To: dp0622
Close means Trump wins. He showed that in 2016. Remember his path to victory? He had to run the table in all the close states. Odds were overwhelmingly against it.

Trump did it.

7 posted on 09/30/2020 8:48:41 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Pdjt needs a ten point lead to overcome the fake and illegal counts from the southeastern corner of the state. Or the fake and illegals have to be prevented. Perhaps criminal prosecutions of the organizers and finders now, before the counting, would accomplish this ? Or?


8 posted on 09/30/2020 8:50:48 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, they are excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: SpeedyInTexas

I think it was Rush who said that 34% of Trump voters did not tell anyone of their support for Trump in 2016.


9 posted on 09/30/2020 8:54:19 AM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: fhayek

In my 50 years of following politics, Republicans who are close or tied win.

Republicans turn out in greater percentages than factored in the polls.

For 50 years.

Evidence: Nixon 1968, Reagan 1980, H W Bush 1988, GW Bush 2000, Trump 2016

All were tied or behind and won.

Trump was heavily behind in 2016, but it’s clear the polls are more biased than ever. Objective polls had him close.


10 posted on 09/30/2020 8:55:40 AM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (Seek you first the kingdom of God, and all things will be given to you.)
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To: fhayek

In my 50 years of following politics, Republicans who are close or tied win.

Republicans turn out in greater percentages than factored in the polls.

For 50 years.

Evidence: Nixon 1968, Reagan 1980, H W Bush 1988, GW Bush 2000, Trump 2016

All were tied or behind and won.

Trump was heavily behind in 2016, but it’s clear the polls are more biased than ever. Objective polls had him close.


11 posted on 09/30/2020 8:55:41 AM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (Seek you first the kingdom of God, and all things will be given to you.)
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To: fhayek

In 16 the Mi Governor, SOS and AG were all Republicans. That is the only reason Trump kept his slim lead. Through harvesting we lost all three in 18. I hate to say it but close probably means we lose Mi.


12 posted on 09/30/2020 8:57:36 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: faithhopecharity

People need to understand that the results are within the margin of statistical error. The race is, and was, essentially a dead heat.


13 posted on 09/30/2020 9:01:08 AM PDT by CalWildcat
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To: gibsonguy

In this environment NOBODY admits to supporting President Trump.

The polls are junk.


14 posted on 09/30/2020 9:02:08 AM PDT by shelterguy
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In this environment NOBODY admits to supporting President Trump.

There's the answer right there.

15 posted on 09/30/2020 9:06:16 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: CalWildcat

The fake and illegal and deceased and multiple votes are issues absolutely necessary to prevent if the election isn’t to be stolen. I just hope hope hope this can be achieved in light of the $$$$$$ deployed to steal the election, obama commie judges and etc.


16 posted on 09/30/2020 9:07:19 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, they are excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: FlipWilson

Trump support is 47% in both polls. Biden picked up 3% percentage from others and undecided.

Total change for Biden within margin of error (3%) so its possible there was no actual change in Biden support


17 posted on 09/30/2020 9:07:51 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: JonPreston
Trafalgar may be the polling group that gets very accurate results by employing a creative approach in their polls — instead of asking people who they are voting for, they ask people who they think their next-door neighbor is voting for. People may be shy about admitting they support Trump, but they aren’t afraid to say their neighbors are.
18 posted on 09/30/2020 9:12:08 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("ThereÂ’s somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: JonPreston

“In this environment NOBODY admits to supporting President Trump.”

This is true but trafalgar is probably least rat friendly of the bunch. We might win Mi but it is probably a long shot since Mi has gone the Dem 90% of the time for decades.


19 posted on 09/30/2020 9:13:51 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: fhayek

“Close means Trump wins.”

I hope so. There’s one demographic group that I’m curious about after last night’s debate - suburban women, particularly the soccer moms.

Anecdotally, I’m using my wife and sister in law as examples. Both are Republicans but they are a bit squishy when it comes to social issues. Both were bothered by Trump’s performance last night. They said he was pushy and aggressive and didn’t need to be. There was no real talking to them so I didn’t.

In a close race like this, I can’t but help wonder if Trump lost any traction with suburban women like my wife and sister in law.


20 posted on 09/30/2020 9:14:09 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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