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Hillary Clinton Was Better Placed in Pennsylvania, Michigan Polls Than Joe Biden Is
newsweek ^ | 09/15/2020 | Jacob Jarvis

Posted on 09/17/2020 9:31:19 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden's predecessor Hillary Clinton was better placed than him in polls for Pennsylvania and Michigan—two states she narrowly lost to President Donald Trump in 2016—at the same point in her campaign

While Clinton won the popular vote, she lost in the Electoral College with narrow defeats in states which had previously voted Democrat contributing to this defeat.

In Michigan, she lost by little more than 10,000 votes, around 0.3 percent of those cast, while in Pennsylvania, Trump secured around 44,000 more votes than her, around 0.7 percent of the state's total ballots, according to New York Times' tracking of election data

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Michigan; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: biden; clinton; michigan; pennsylvania; poll; polls
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1 posted on 09/17/2020 9:31:19 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Did you they factor in the mail-in vote fraud?


2 posted on 09/17/2020 9:34:51 AM PDT by joshua c
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
The polls in 2016 were cooked, just not as cooked as 2020's have been and still are.

3 posted on 09/17/2020 9:36:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: joshua c

Voter fraud is the only reason why Biden would win PA. As much as we hated Hillary, she was in better shape in 2016 than Biden is in 2020, and it shouldn’t even be close.


4 posted on 09/17/2020 9:38:47 AM PDT by CatOwner
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The Democrat strategists have been studying their previous loss. Instead of finding an electable candidate they have chosen to cheat in this election in ways enabled by the manufactured Covid crisis that they could never have gotten away with before. President Trump is going to need to win in a landslide or they will steal this election. Even if he wins in a landslide they are still going to drag this out for months.


5 posted on 09/17/2020 9:39:47 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: ChicagoConservative27

this is true... but deceptive.

While it is true that Hillary was further ahead... her numbers were LOWER.

Let me give you a completely made up example:

Hillary 45 Trump 39
Biden 50 Trump 47

Technically Trump is outperforming his 2016 numbers (in this example) ie. polling 8 point higher, and only behind Biden by 3 vs behind 6 from Hillary.

BUT, Biden is at 50!!!!!!!!! 50.00000001 and you win! get it? Biden has been polling MUCH higher than Hillary ever did, and much of it above 50.

I am not saying Trump can’t win, but he needs a knockout at the debates or something big to move the numbers for Biden DOWN.


6 posted on 09/17/2020 9:40:08 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Do they not teach journalists basic grammar any more? “while in Pennsylvania, Trump secured around 44,000 more votes than her” - should be “than she”. You wouldn’t say “more than her did”, it is “more than she did”.


7 posted on 09/17/2020 9:41:56 AM PDT by HonorInPa
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To: ChicagoConservative27

As I said, there IS NO SLOBBERING LOVE AFFAIR between Pennsylvanians and Joe Biden. Can we finally put that myth to rest?

If there was one it was back in the 80’s when he was managing to fool a bunch of union guys in mills and mines. For the most part those voters aren’t around anymore.


8 posted on 09/17/2020 9:42:59 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: fireman15

Actually, with no proof, I think Bidon was a foil to stop Bernie. Kamala is who the leadership wanted all along even of the voters did not.


9 posted on 09/17/2020 9:47:58 AM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no justice until The PIAPS is legally executed)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

l8r


10 posted on 09/17/2020 9:49:11 AM PDT by preacher ( Journalism no longer reports news, they use news to shape our society.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

A big part of the money that Michael Bloomberg is putting into the Harris/Biden campaign is not for publicity or any direct pre-election assistance, but for the armies of lawyers that are going to be hired to contest EVERY state outcome in which the Harris/Biden ticket is even remotely within striking distance with enough recounts of the vote.

Worked in Minnesota when Al Franken was elected to the Senate.


11 posted on 09/17/2020 9:54:00 AM PDT by alloysteel ("The Best Is Yet to Come "- theme of 2020 RNC)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

the other factor is voter commitment. in 2016 democratic voters expected an easy hillary win so it wasn’t as big a deal for individual voters get around to voting, some years things don’t work out scheduling wise for some voters and they don’t get around to voting. this year they will have a higher determination to get their vote in, and fewer voters will miss getting around to it. so i expect a higher turnout.


12 posted on 09/17/2020 9:57:20 AM PDT by ChronicMA
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Pennsylvania Ping!

Please ping me with articles of interest.

FReepmail me to be added to the list.

13 posted on 09/17/2020 10:00:17 AM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Hillary was better placed?

Where?

On the floor of that van?

“There’s some coffee on the floor of the van! Somebody get that old mop and wipe it up!. Not Hillary, you nitwit! Don’t use her to mop up coffee! Wait until there’s some vomit, damnit!”


14 posted on 09/17/2020 10:02:12 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: ChronicMA

Perhaps, but there was a lot more voter enthusiasm on the Dems side to vote for the first woman President, compared to an old white guy who speaks in word salads...


15 posted on 09/17/2020 10:04:36 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Plugs claims PA as his home.To the degree that residents accept that they might be more inclined to vote for him. The President could lose PA and carry everything else he carried in ‘16 and still win.
16 posted on 09/17/2020 10:10:38 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Thanks To Biden Voters Oregon Is Now A Battleground State!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27; All

MMM - Mainstream Media Megalomaniacs threw Bill Fastballs Clinton by us. Then they threw us a curveball with Berrie O Bozo. Then a split-fingered/sinker with Cankles. Now a Screwball with JoeJoe?

Who’s on 1st JoeJoe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M

Let’s see:

1B...he never made it past...the Smilin’ Socialist Slugger - Bourgeois Bernie.
3B...born on 3B thinks he hit a home run Andrew Cuomo
LF...Nancy Pelosi
CF...George Soros covering lots of ground
RF...in front of the busted clock out there...Tulsi Gabbard
P...BIG MIKE
C...Berrie
SS & 2B...:JoeJoe and Hunter...can turn that double pay better than Trammel & Whitaker
BULLPEN Heels Up Horror Show
On the bench...Wolf Murphy Brown Newsome and the Michigan Medusa Whitmer.
1st round draft pick from Florida State Lizzy Warpath...she throws a mean tomahawk
Coach...Bill Gates

They want to be in the 2020 World Hugh and Series.

As Berrie would say...”PLAY BALL” and Hot Dogs!!! Get yer Hot Dogs here!


17 posted on 09/17/2020 10:11:49 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

maybe, but SorozNazi’s DemoNaziCommie party machine has a much bigger election fraud system in place this time


18 posted on 09/17/2020 10:14:42 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, they are excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: fireman15

agreed


19 posted on 09/17/2020 10:15:24 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, they are excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Any numbers out of Philly and Pittsburg will throw the overall states numbers........rural Pa truly needs to roll out big time in this election.

Both of those cities are thick in Demo-rat political dung. Visiting there is like going to another planet!


20 posted on 09/17/2020 10:17:02 AM PDT by caww (The Left are in war mode to regain power...NOT have an election.)
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