Posted on 09/07/2020 7:34:22 PM PDT by DoodleBob
Absolutely NOT, no therapeutic or prevention measure should ever be compelled. The first principle of bioethics is autonomy — the patient has the right to make his own decisions given informed consent of all the risks, benefits, and alternatives.
Or anyone who does not want to get CoVID — but screw them, apparently, is your belief.
As a healthcare worker, I do not need anyone to come for me — I will happily get the vaccine at my earliest opportunity.
Or I suppose you dont see the reason to give into informed science either.
Yep.... thankfully that part of my life is over.
Unfortunately, getting the youngest to keep the grand-babies out is gonna be fun.
Why dont you round with me in the ICU sometime and see what this disease does in its end stage — you would sh*t your pants, turn into a puddle, and beg for a cure. The fact of the patter is that prevention is better than cure (Oath of Hippocrates)
If you choose to answer, please stay on point, and answer not what you want to, but to the facts at hand.
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“People who believe the vaccine is needed to protect them can get a vaccine. Those who are not vaccinated are not a threat to those who are vaccinated.”
BINGO!
“As a healthcare worker, I do not need anyone to come for me — I will happily get the vaccine at my earliest opportunity.”
So sorry..... not interested at all as it’s nothing more than another corona-virus albeit a somewhat modified one.
That’s awesome..... too bad I haven’t figured out how to save it.
“As a healthcare worker, I do not need anyone to come for me — I will happily get the vaccine at my earliest opportunity.”
Can you tell us what facility you work at so we can avoid it. Obviously you went to a school in CA where anybody can get a degree.
Most everyday at work, I am exposed to blood, urine and body fluids. Have been so for 6.5 years.
I have my proper PPE, good hygiene habits and not touching my face.
You others?
Quite picking your nose.
Sure!, and the proof of being tested should be worn publically on your head, or on your right hand to prove it, and you should be prevented from buying or selling anything unless you have the mark.
*sigh*
I am not usually an end times person.. but this shit is scary.
WTF is your point. Everyday at work I think I probably take a bigger exposure than you — so I am happy to get the vaccine as my job is uncontrolled exposures, unlike, apparently, yours.
This! They ain’t screwing with my DNA. And they won’t stop with just one vaccination either. Not gonna take one.
I wouldn't dream of blocking access to a vaccination center or physicians office of hospital/clinic for people who WANT a vaccine. There are a lot of mental calculations backing up that decision, which may include Comorbidities. Indeed, this is (largely) why I don't complain too much about wearing a mask in a store. Not every slightly ill person can have things delivered, and frankly getting out is good for people mentally.
You've been a consistent voice here for the past few months. Thanks.
Is that the same science that was telling me 30 or so years ago I couldn’t live where I currently live due to global warming?
Health care workers will be first, but optional, kids will be next, parental approval needed but “strongly” suggested. Then the rest of us.
I don’t get the flu vaccine unless I’m in the workforce handling cash, or traveling a lot for work. That hasn’t happened for me in several years.
I am not keen on vaccines unless I’m out and about in the world in an active way, meaning the above circumstances.
Since I am somewhat retired, I don’t feel that I’m terribly at risk for contracting most communicable diseases. I don’t think the benefits outweigh the risks for me personally. So I do not plan on getting the CoVid vaccine once it’s available. I might change my mind, but right now, that’s how I lean.
Thank you for your kind words, I am really trying to not be salty however, I have treated (as I previously states) over 1000 patients in critical care with this disease. If we can prevent it, I am a huge advocate for this.
But I also genuinely believe in freedom and autonomy. I see nothing wrong with the scientific process that has been implemented. I believe that American scientists have actually accomplished something quite amazing, and we should be waving the flag and shouting our success
I struggle with the Stem cell question. I have extensively looked at it — there are not fetal cells in the actual vaccine, however there have been some stem cells used in the research — this is the age old dilemma and its a tough call. I dont have a perfect answer for it.
I have not revealed a lot about myself because its irrelevant, but I am a bit of a lard ass, and need to lose weight. Being in the critical care units for 104 straight days under stress is not optimal for healthy weight loss (but this is on me - I really dont have to eat those cookies at 3 AM). So I think comorbid conditions are a part of the equation.
What I truly believe is that there is nothing new under the sun. I believe that we have her immunity in my location and this looks like every other pandemic in the world. It has been weaponized. But as conservatives, we have a God given brain. I think the vaccine is truly the opening of the flood gates to normalcy. The liberals even said this, and they are caught with their pants down that the president has delivered. I believe that they had no inkling it could be done. It demonstrates the true grace and ability of freedom loving people.
I will never advocate for forced anything, I believe that the patient has the right to choose once all the cards are on the table.
I suppose this is a lengthy apology as it drives me crazy when nonfactual arguments are repeated.
Thank you for your consistent view point and for presenting a balanced argument as well. Be well my FRiend. I will probably be a little more tolerable tomorrow as it is my first day off since March 14.
I may not want the vaccine and I also think many States went into overkill on their lockdowns.
But that was no boating accident, and this isn't a "normal" virus. It is almost like it was engineered to be this bad.
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