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Once approved, should people be required to get a COVID-19 vaccine as a matter of public health?
The Denver Channel ^ | August 31, 2020 | Meghan Lopez

Posted on 09/07/2020 7:34:22 PM PDT by DoodleBob

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To: gas_dr
Things I do, do not have to do with pathogens, but the medical field has a high potential exposure to what I target.

The Wuhan Virus "crisis" has made many in the medical field change their habbits to not bring things home.

A gal I whose home I will go to this week had to De Con two intake patients and her PPE did not save her from bringing home what I target.

She has changed her habit.

61 posted on 09/07/2020 8:42:13 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Whatever. Please tell me one thing that. have said that is not accurate from a scientific perspective.
If you can testify to the truth — do it, otherwise STFU. Hint, you can’t.


62 posted on 09/07/2020 8:45:28 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: S.O.S121.500

Must be taught o look in the mirror then.


63 posted on 09/07/2020 8:45:48 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: Deaf Smith

I will admit, I was awfully lax. I got a really quick tune up. One night early on, I had to intubate a patient under investigation. Mind you this was when we had no friggin idea what we were dealing with. I have handled well over 25,000 airways in my life. I was scared to death incubating that patient and I made sure there were only two people in the room and we were fully protected.

Afterwards, we buddy disrobed our PPE and I debriefed the team. We now are much better at handling airways, and I admit, I no longer even with Non Plague patients just go in and dunk the tube without full and proper PPE.

On a personal note, and I spoke of this back then. I was TERRIFIED. I hated every day walking by the signs about heroes working in the hospital and I cringed every time someone referred to us intensivist as healthcare heroes. I don’t believe that heroes are scared when they do their work. But someone adjusted my perspective and I am grateful to that FReeper. Six months ago, on the frontline, we were dealing with life an death every day, and not sure if we were bringing home to our families.

I am a staunch supporter of early use of HCQ with symptoms. Hypothetically speaking, I might be on HCQ prophylaxis as per several other countries guidelines. So I freely believe in using any and all things we can to mitigate, stop, and with a vaccine, prevent this disease.

Like your girl, I have learned a ton and changed a lot of my habits, too. And this is a good thing for our profession.

I am ready to get back to normal, however, because I really want to play craps in Vegas.


64 posted on 09/07/2020 8:52:07 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

phyck you

yougive no evidence for your slam i advocate bizarre coniracy theories

i said perhaps we dont take vaccines from a guy who is a known population reductionist

bill gates is on record for advocating for reduced global human populations

also irrefutable evidence abput his link and his dad being a state leader of planned parwnthood

and yes gates’ polio vaccines in india and now, africa, are giving people there polio and they’ve also killed people there

and they discovered undisclosed sterilizing ingredients in the indian polio vaccine, those sicentists there took it to a lab to find out everything in it and found them. they were not listed in the ingredient list of everything in the vaccines.

so jackwagon, tell me how its a bizarre conspiracy theory

how much money do you get paid to troll this board and people who won’t take a vaccine froma guy who isn’t even in the medical profession, yet spends his momey in media outlets to give him time a lot of time to appear as a medical expert.


65 posted on 09/07/2020 8:52:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: gas_dr
Why dont you round with me in the ICU sometime and see what this disease does in its end stage — you would sh*t your pants, turn into a puddle, and beg for a cure. The fact of the patter is that prevention is better than cure (Oath of Hippocrates) If you choose to answer, please stay on point, and answer not what you want to, but to the facts at hand.

Your post did not address my comments, so I'll 'stay on the point' I originally stated:
If you want to take the vaccine - take it. It sounds like you fall in the category of the people who really, really want the vaccine. And it sounds like you are also in a high risk category - physically, as well as the virus exposure you receive at work. So by all means take it. And while you are waiting for the magic-bullet vaccine, are you taking preventative measures (like HCQ+zinc+), and prescribing the same? Oath of Hippocrates, and all that.
But why force the vaccine on the vast majority of the population that aren't at risk (or not at a risk level higher than the 'normal' flu)?
And do you disagree with the 'point' that the high risk population should have been quarantined, and not the whole population? Or, in the case of New York, quarantining the healthy, but ensuring that the high risk elderly were subjected to maximum virus exposure.

67 posted on 09/07/2020 8:56:11 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: DoodleBob

Same as masks. If you want to wear a mask do so. If you want the vaccine get it. If you don’t want to do one or the other or both then don’t. It’s called freedom of choice.


69 posted on 09/07/2020 8:57:31 PM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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To: Meatspace
Employers will mandate or at the least very much prefer their customers be vaccinated.

Time to work for a family owned business of like minded people. Or, consider being your own boss.

70 posted on 09/07/2020 8:58:47 PM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: DoodleBob
If the vaccine, or any vaccine, harms you you can't sue per Federal law.

42 U.S. Code § 300aa–22. Standards of responsibility

71 posted on 09/07/2020 9:00:22 PM PDT by TigersEye (Leftist mentality is a multitude of fictions that can't be questioned.)
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To: El Cid

1. I am hypothetically a part of a prophylactic study utilizing HCQ
2. I have hypothetically prescribed HCQ and AZI early on in the disease state — it doesn’t work for crap in phase 3 disease
3. I practice what I preach
4. On point find a single post where I have advocated forcing. vaccine on someone. Hint —you can’t
5. I think the shutdown was atrocious

So now that I have answered your questions. Do the courtesy of answering mine. Except for the most bat sh*t crazy posters on this forum, even those who disagree with me have said that I keep a very consistent perspective.


72 posted on 09/07/2020 9:00:57 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

you are a liar

how is anything i wrote distracting others from the truth

you are a damned liar and just as bad as any alinskyite projecting the crap they are doing onto an innocent enemy


73 posted on 09/07/2020 9:01:36 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Anyone with an IQ < 60
Fixed it for you


74 posted on 09/07/2020 9:01:43 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

thank you for confirming arrogant ass for everyone here


75 posted on 09/07/2020 9:02:38 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

You still cannot site a single specific fact. You must have flunked high school debate as well. Must be hard to be often wrong and never in doubt. Tell me one thing I have said that is incorrect. You cant.


76 posted on 09/07/2020 9:03:27 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

Stop trolling.


77 posted on 09/07/2020 9:04:16 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: Secret Agent Man

I can’t help that you are a feckless, clueless ignoramus.


78 posted on 09/07/2020 9:04:16 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: conservative98

I have a posting history that dates back 18 years. I am pretty sure I am not a troll. Unless you count setting the record straight as trolling — then guilty as charged.


79 posted on 09/07/2020 9:05:13 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

im not the one not responding to questions here on this thread

see ya, go back to jerking it, you’ll be more productive


80 posted on 09/07/2020 9:05:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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