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17-Year-old Suspect Charged With Murder After Two Killed at Kenosha Protest (Kyle Rittenhouse)
Daily Beast ^ | 08/26/2020 | Pilar Melendez

Posted on 08/26/2020 10:28:22 AM PDT by Drew68

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To: woodpusher
Your misapprehension of the Second Amendment is of the right that is protected. What is protected is the common law right to keep and bear arms. That is the right that shall not be infringed. That is right to keep and bear arms that may be lawfully possessed.

Wrong. What is set up by the Second is that NO governmening body acting under the US Constitution has a just duty, power, or legal standing to infringe on the Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

Period. Or do we need to revisit the Pre-amble to BoR to see what the Founders actually intended when they wrote their "declaratory and restrictive" clauses?

And no... I don't give a tin sh*t what legal hand waving has sprung over over the decades to reduce this protection for our Right to NOTHING. I've heard it all before and it is all just "justification" for infringing that which bloody well never should have been infringed on to start with.

541 posted on 08/27/2020 11:42:26 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: zipper
Most go along with it, sacrificing their dignity to avoid confrontation.

Yup; but one day the thugs will pick on the wrong person!

Who will know how to get them to TOUCH him/her in some manner; then Katy bar the door!

542 posted on 08/27/2020 12:21:28 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Dead Corpse

“Care to address what actually happened here?”

Legally, he was breaking the law by being there with the rifle. Second, he appears to have no support or backup. A major fuck up. 3rd, He lacked fire discipline. In that one video, he was just popping off rounds. I praise the armed citizens who knew what they were doing. You are free to support the one guy who clearly showed he didn’t have the training or experience to be there. I do not belong to nor will I join a militia group. Until I see otherwise, the groups contain too many who find low standards acceptable.


544 posted on 08/27/2020 2:40:21 PM PDT by Armscor38
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To: central_va

“Clearly the video I saw he will never be convicted of murder. Probably of nothing. The DA has no case.”

The videos certainly prove he was in violation of WI law which prohibits minors of possessing long guns except in very certain circumstances. This is just my opinion, but that fact will harm any self-defense argument he may have.


545 posted on 08/27/2020 2:42:51 PM PDT by Armscor38
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To: Armscor38

“he was just popping off rounds.”

You are mistaken. You may have heard other people shooting and assumed it was him.

He demonstrated outstanding threat identification and restraint.

After getting kicked to the ground, he fired on the man who hit him in the head with the skateboard as that man was trying to take control of the rifle.

The man who had his arm shot was rushing towards him with a pistol (I think a small glock) in his right hand. He freezes a few feet from the shooter with his hands held up in front of him signalling surrender, still holding the glock in his right hand. After freezing for a moment he appears to “make his move” and only after that aggression is he shot in the arm. All the while another man had also frozen with his hands up a few feet from the shooter. That man was allowed to retreat is safety.


546 posted on 08/27/2020 3:02:42 PM PDT by OHelix
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To: OHelix

I hear 4 shots which I think we both agree were fired from the rifle. The other shots heard later clearly were being fired elsewhere. I will concede that my previous description of how he conducted fire discipline is overblown.


547 posted on 08/27/2020 3:29:01 PM PDT by Armscor38
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To: Vermont Lt

[Stop cheering the fact that kids are fighting your battles.]


So America’s wars should be fought by geriatrics? Maybe we should institute a minimum age requirement for cops, soldiers and firefighters? 65 and over recruits only?


548 posted on 08/27/2020 3:34:01 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Armscor38

First two sentences are wrong. But hey... Participation trophy for you...


549 posted on 08/27/2020 4:54:28 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Jim Noble

very inappropriate here, read the rules


550 posted on 08/27/2020 6:25:21 PM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists.)
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To: Armscor38

Pfffft. He will get a fine for possessing a firearm which will have nothing to do with self defense arguments. He will walk on everything else.


551 posted on 08/27/2020 6:53:56 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: EBH

And he still gets arrested by the DA of Wisconsin. Hope he hire the same lawyers that represented Nick Sandmann


552 posted on 08/27/2020 8:11:49 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway

He did. Lin Wood notified the family that his team was activated and waiting for his family to OK their involvement.


553 posted on 08/28/2020 3:22:55 AM PDT by EBH (It is time. We need to take the upper hand. The Election time will be too late.)
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To: Armscor38
The videos certainly prove he was in violation of WI law which prohibits minors of possessing long guns except in very certain circumstances.

Lucky for him he was from Illinois!

554 posted on 08/28/2020 5:09:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Hugh the Scot
"I’ve hardly ever seen a stupider comment on FR than this: “It probably is wise not to be out on the streets when rioting is going on, and less wise to carry a long fire arm openly.”

Things worked out for the 17 year old didn't they?

555 posted on 09/26/2020 10:04:14 AM PDT by dvan (Send Them Home!Napolatono)
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To: dvan

Whether it did or didn’t, it doesn’t make your comment any less stupid.


556 posted on 09/26/2020 2:00:46 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot
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