Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Joe Biden Promises To End Traditional 401(k)-Style Retirement Savings Tax Benefits. What’s That Mean?
Forbes ^ | August 25, 2020 | Elizabeth Bauer

Posted on 08/25/2020 2:03:44 PM PDT by karpov

Round about a month ago, I took a closer look at Joe Biden’s retirement-related policy proposals, or, more specifically, those of the “Unity Task Force,” which had just released its final document.

One of the items in that document and on the Biden campaign website is a promise to “equalize the network of retirement saving tax breaks” — a proposal that generally translates to eliminating the tax advantages currently enjoyed by retirement savings accounts and replacing them with a “credit” or “match.” The idea is that the tax advantages, or “tax expenditures,” as they’re called, disproportionately accrue to relatively higher earners, and the hope of a change is to provide benefits in equal measure to all income groups.

But how this translates in practice is not clear. An article at Roll Call this morning picked up on the proposal, as did Courthouse News, but neither had more detail, referencing only a 2014 Urban Institute/Tax Policy Center proposal, which provided various hypothetical alternatives.

So what did that proposal suggest? It included a variety of options, including

Reducing total available pre-tax savings (employer and employee) from (at the time) $51,000 to only the lesser of $20,000 or 20% of pay;

Expanding the currently relatively-small “Saver’s Credit” (equal to 50% of the first $2,000 in retirement savings, only for relatively lower earners, up to $$19,500 for singles, $39,000 for couples; and phasing out quickly, to 20%, 10%, and ultimately nothing for singles with $32,500/couples with $65,000 in income) to stay at 50% for higher earners and phase out in a much more gradual manner instead; or

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Delaware
KEYWORDS: 401k; biden; biden2020; bidenagenda; california; clowncar; delaware; incometaxes; india; jamaica; joebiden; joeclowncarbiden; kamalaharris; retirement; taxcutsandjobsact; taxes; taxreform; tcja
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-100 next last
Spread the word -- Biden wants to dramatically reduce how much you can save for retirement in a 401(k).
1 posted on 08/25/2020 2:03:44 PM PDT by karpov
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: karpov

Biden is going to kill Social Security.

Pass it on.


2 posted on 08/25/2020 2:06:52 PM PDT by Paladin2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: karpov

Beijing Biden boosts burdens blissfully.


3 posted on 08/25/2020 2:07:58 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("when a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: karpov

“We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.” - Hillary


4 posted on 08/25/2020 2:08:00 PM PDT by DannyTN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: karpov

Close... Biden wants to steal your 401(k).

Research “Obama retirement task force”


5 posted on 08/25/2020 2:08:32 PM PDT by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: karpov

Anyone listen to Mark Levin the other day, he had people who are going to vote for Biden call in and he asked them why, and holy smoke, the reasons were so freakin naive it was unreal. One guy said because Biden will bring people together- HAH another said because Biden is against hunting, and one said because he will get rid of CO2. They have NO idea what’s in store for them if he wins do they.


6 posted on 08/25/2020 2:08:38 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: karpov

It means that Joe needs more money to remodel a house.


7 posted on 08/25/2020 2:08:49 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: karpov

Give me all your stuff. I’m here to help. With — the thing — you know? C’mon man!


8 posted on 08/25/2020 2:09:10 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: karpov
Spread the word -- Biden wants to dramatically reduce how much you can save for retirement in a 401(k).

I think that's the best case. The worst case is confiscation.

Democrat public employee unions invested their pensions with crooked connected pseudo-mafia parasites for years, resulting in dramatically underfunded pensions.

The time will come when firefighters and teachers need YOUR "subsidized" 401(k) for the sake of basic fairness.

They won't call it confiscation. It will just be a "millionaires tax" on withdrawals from an 401(k) that has more than say $250,000 in it. it will start small (maybe 3 or 4%) and then grow little by little to match the falloff in benefits for public union employees.

9 posted on 08/25/2020 2:09:20 PM PDT by edwinland
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: karpov

I can hear it all now. “Comprehensive retirement reform”. “A secure retirement is a human right. “Common sense retirement reform”. “Quit balancing the budget on the backs of working class families”.


10 posted on 08/25/2020 2:09:55 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: karpov

There are few ways that an average wage earner in this world can save $1 million for their retirement. The 401 k is the way for most folks.

But, I always had trouble getting a 19 year old to comprehend this. So it will be impossible for Biden voters to comprehend.


11 posted on 08/25/2020 2:10:04 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I hope Mark gave them an education.


12 posted on 08/25/2020 2:10:30 PM PDT by EvilCapitalist (Fire Fauci)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: ClearCase_guy

Oh man! POTUS should stand for a $100k withdrawal from current IRA’s. Tax free. How would the rats react?


13 posted on 08/25/2020 2:11:20 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: karpov

You and I are getting robbed, that’s what it means.

Frankly, that’s usually what it means any time any politician opens their mouth.


14 posted on 08/25/2020 2:11:28 PM PDT by Boogieman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: karpov

Democrat scum will have always dreamed of taking 401ks.


15 posted on 08/25/2020 2:12:03 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: karpov

“Promises”?

Odd word to use to describe a threat.


16 posted on 08/25/2020 2:12:05 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: karpov

You can bet he plans a tax credit for the unwilling to work at the expense of a savings tax taken out of earnings or possibly from your own 401 for the common good.


17 posted on 08/25/2020 2:12:45 PM PDT by hercuroc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: karpov

There’s no reason to vote for ANY member of the Democrat Party in 2020!!!!


18 posted on 08/25/2020 2:12:54 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: karpov

[Joe Biden Promises To End Traditional 401(k)-Style Retirement Savings Tax Benefits. What’s That Mean?]

What is means is Joe Biden doesn’t care about seniors.

Joe Biden is a multi-millionaire. What? Biden worry?


19 posted on 08/25/2020 2:13:01 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GrandJediMasterYoda
This is why only property owning, gainfully employed (or having retired from such), verifiable citizens of the United States should ever be allowed to vote in any elections.
20 posted on 08/25/2020 2:13:16 PM PDT by LouAvul ("..it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps..")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-100 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson