Posted on 07/29/2020 9:06:23 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU
suspensions for unpaid fines and fees items.[0].image.alt By: Anthony ReyesPosted at 6:22 PM, Jul 22, 2020 and last updated 8:42 AM, Jul 23, 2020 NEW YORK (WKBW) — The New York State Senate and Assembly have passed a bill to end the suspension of driver's licenses based on the failure to pay traffic ticket fines or fees. The legislation also creates a payment plan system for drivers.
The bill must be signed by Governor Andrew Cuomo to become law.
Sponsored by Senator Tim Kennedy (D-Buffalo) in the Senate, and by Assemblymember Pamela Hunter (D-Syracuse) in the Assembly, the bill is part of a national push to address policies that unfairly impact low-income and minority communities.
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Which will be promptly replaced by Big $$$$ Mask Volition Fines.
Violation
yep and business opening fees
Good... less revenue for the state.
Well, heck, just drop driver’s licenses all together and just use a State ID card to drive (except to vote, of course!)...
see post 2. they will find a way to make up the difference from the law abiding.
Better off never getting a drivers license. Just fire up dad’s Yugo and hit the highway!
It used to be that the people who used the courts would have to pay for them. Lawbreakers would pay though fines and costs. Civil cases would be charged filing fees, etc. People who didn’t sue or break laws didn’t have to pay for the courts.
Now the dem states are turning that around. The law abiding will be taxed to pay for the criminal side of the courts.
Virginia stopped suspending licenses July 1.
I am not sure if I am viewing this through the correct lens, but initially I find my self surprised thinking NY has actually done something that makes sense. Punishment should be appropriate to the crime. If a serious moving violation (ie reckless, dangerous , fleeing officers in pursuit, etc) has occurred, then just suspend the license. If a minor traffic violation has occurred (parking tickets, less than 10 mph over the limit, etc) then a fine is appropriate. If people dont pay the fine, they get a court summons. If they fail to appear, they get a bench warrant. But taking a license and likely preventing one from making a living over a minor traffic violation seems harsh. What am I missing?
I don’t think you are missing anything.
Nothing. The policy has been very detrimental to poor people in general and getting rid of it is a step in the right direction.
When I lived in NY, damn near every laborer I hired had this problem. They would tack on massive court fees to every ticket and they simply couldn’t afford $300 or $500 for some tiny violation. So, they lost their license.
Next, they should get rid of the onerous fees required to have a vehicle registered and on the road, perhaps looking at a system like South Carolina has where the amount you pay is based on the value of your car. Far easier that way for people to move out of poverty and not be stuck in the ghetto. They’ll never do this, because they hate poor people bettering themselves on their own. They also hate motor vehicles.
I appreciate your thoughts on this. But you might be erasing one of the intents of their efforts toward the bill.
The main focus point of the bill is not to track or justify the making driving without a license a crime. The reason for the license is to justify the opportunity of a driver, one that understands the law and has demonstrated both the ability and determination to be safe within the needs of the road. If the fallout of that is removed, then it doesn’t make any difference if the driver is safe or even cares to be.
So by removing the actions to that, they are creating a dangerous atmosphere on the roadway. And it is being done to protect people based upon something other than their ability to drive:
“...we’re creating a system for New Yorkers to pay these fees efficiently and without fear of losing a job, missing a rent payment, or forfeiting an education due to personal and financial challenges...”
In judging that the New York judicial system is a fallacy anyway in that they have so many people, with so much major crime in existence, they aren’t going to look for people with outstanding tickets and are not going to waste the court times with creating bench warrants. They can’t cover what they have now.
So their answer is to allow people, many who shouldn’t be on the road, an open invitation to getting away for their lives until they kill someone or themselves because they can’t drive or don’t care how. All with the blessing of the state. So which one, or both, is guilty of vehicular manslaughter or worse if it happens...the driver and/or the state?
rwood
Next up... no requirement for vehicle insurance.
I wanted to retire in Virginia. No more. might as well stay in New York
Even better. Just prevent them from renewing their license until they pay the fine(s). I went to renew in FL once and was told I couldn’t renew until I paid for an unpaid citation; from 20 years prior in MA. I guess MA had gone through the old paper records and entered the data into their computer systems.
You are not missing anything. In fact it has been my position that there can be no requirement for a license to drive in the first place. I have long held the position that we have been brainwashed by this notion "driving is a privilege". Driving is without question a right just as walking down the sidewalk. Does anyone believe the founders of our nation would have been ok with the state having the power to "license" the use of a horse? Of course not and today the automobile is our horse, just as the electronic media is our printing press.
Lastly I have pinned this very issue as the beginning of indoctrination in public schools. This is the issue that started it all. The notion that our rights concerning liberty is a privilege granted by government. This issue is when the brainwashing began some fifty years ago.
This is a perfect example of how effective public school brainwashing has been. "Driving is a privilege" is pure hoey and always has been.
A free society can still put the responsibility of safe operation and the following of rules of the roads on the driver WITHOUT the requirement of a license. You appear to have fallen for the lie hook line and sinker, but don't feel bad many if not most of us have as we have heard the lie that driving is privilege since 4th grade. Our rights do not come from government and do not require a license.
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