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Why is Russia’s Putin talking about marriage and faith in God?
Baptist News ^ | July 6 2020 | ANDREY SHIRIN

Posted on 07/19/2020 10:39:30 PM PDT by rintintin

On Wednesday, July 1, Russians voted to approve a series of amendments to the Russian constitution. Among them is the mention of “faith in God” and definition of marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

Contrary to some pundits, these are not just crowd pleasers to ensure a higher turnout for a popular vote that would permit Vladimir Putin to run for president again when his term expires in 2024. These amendments are consistent with prior steps to position Putin as the leader of the Christian world and defender of traditional morals. As I argued earlier, faith in Russia is considered a political and public matter, not a private matter as it tends to be perceived in the West.

Some notable American conservative Christians, such as Pat Buchanan, find much to like. Putin is not hesitant to speak of living in a world based on biblical values. The Russian state actively encourages traditional marriage and childbearing. Same-sex marriage is not recognized. We have no problem with LGBTQ persons, says Putin, but some things done in the West appear excessive to us. Russians want these people to be happy, but this must not overshadow cultural traditions and family values.

Others, such as Franklin Graham, developed contacts with the Russian Orthodox Church also based on mutual support of “traditional” family values and aversion to Western secularism. Graham had Putin on the cover of the March 2014 issue of his Decision magazine, asking rhetorically, “Isn’t it sad, though, that America’s own morality has fallen so far that on this issue — protecting children from any homosexual agenda or propaganda — Russia’s standard is higher than our own?”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: nevertrump; nevertrumper; nevertrumpers; putin; putinsbuttboys
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1 posted on 07/19/2020 10:39:30 PM PDT by rintintin
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To: rintintin

Wow. The Lord works in mysterious ways.


2 posted on 07/19/2020 10:43:08 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Texas Eagle

I think we should respect Putin, we should work with Putin, but we should never trust him.

I think he is smart enough to realize that the only chance his country has is going back to Christianity and creating larger families as the numbers of births are swindling in Russia.

That being said, whether he believes or not it’s still a good thing.

people forget he still sticks by the fall of the Soviet Union as the worst tragedy in the 20th century


3 posted on 07/19/2020 10:46:33 PM PDT by dp0622 (Trump!!)
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To: dp0622

1st sentence of yours, yes. last sentence, yes. these are the two core ones.


4 posted on 07/19/2020 10:48:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

You think there is some other purpose to this whole thing? I just don’t buy so easily that all of a sudden he’s a man of God.

he wouldn’t it say the fall of Communism was the worst thing in the 20th century. He would say it was one of the best if he became a true Christian


5 posted on 07/19/2020 10:55:06 PM PDT by dp0622 (Trump!!)
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To: rintintin

I know that Putin is not a good guy, but for quite a while, at least until Trump got elected POTUS, he seemd to be the only major world leader sticking up for Christians.


6 posted on 07/19/2020 10:56:38 PM PDT by jocon307 (Dem party delenda est!)
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To: dp0622
If Putin thought he could acquire more power by flying the rainbow flag over the Kremlin and streaming Brokeback Mountain on RT, he'd do it.

You're totally right...this POS is a snake of the highest order. His faux Christianity has normally Deplorable Americans slobbering all over him whenever he says something "traditional" that they like.

to position Putin as the leader of the Christian world and defender of traditional morals

The leader of the Christian world and defender of traditional morals wouldn't annex the Crimea and have the leader of the Ukraine poisoned.

There are a zillion other leaders who champion Christianity legitimately that I'd cheer on before Vlad. I trust used car salesmen more than Putin.

7 posted on 07/19/2020 10:58:16 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: dp0622

nope, i dont necessarily buy it

hes got a kgb background, hes a true believer in communism

theynuse whatever angles work

they are using the religious angle for patriotism, to empower himself, and give the citizens some of their culture bakc that they missed, that will still be subject to him


8 posted on 07/19/2020 11:02:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: rintintin

It’s cynical for ex-KGB Putin to pose as a defender of Christians and traditional morality... but the West’s embrace of LGBT has provided an opening for him. Hell, Muslims Imams are doing the same thing. Looking at the U.S. and various European countries letting two sodomy buddies go around pretending that they’re a married couple, adopting kids, etc., well, many folks (including me) look at that and are repulsed. So if Putin or some Muslim cleric or anyone points at our perverse culture, and knocks it, they’re right! You can’t blame ‘em for making points that are valid points. You can’t blame ‘em for seizing an opportunity for be on the right side of an issue where Western culture is so obviously on the wrong side.


9 posted on 07/19/2020 11:08:45 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: rintintin

I’m sure the real reason why today’s liberals are obsessed with Russia is because of Russia’s stand on traditional values. Remember the two things liberals will fight to the last person to defend: abortion and deviant sex.


10 posted on 07/19/2020 11:17:58 PM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: dp0622

The worst tragedy for Russia, for it’s peoples certainly was WW2. The greatest thing for humanity as a whole was the collapse of The Soviet Union.


11 posted on 07/19/2020 11:19:25 PM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: irishjuggler

I’ve always maintained here that Putin was a murdering KGB thug and took heat for it. Hell’s Bell’s Putin was a colonel. You don’t get those kind of chops in the KGB without smoking somebody or having it done.The guy’s a bum. His own people have been out recently protesting against him.


12 posted on 07/19/2020 11:22:39 PM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: DoodleBob
Putin's mother was genuine Christian, who risked a lot to practice he faith. That is the sincere reason for the love of the Russian Orthodox Church.

I have no doubt be believes Christian morality is best for his nation. He is a nationalist first and foremost and know the benefits of Christianity for his nation.

That only makes him a better leader than almost any prominent Democrat.

13 posted on 07/19/2020 11:23:58 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: irishjuggler
Many today do not understand the societal function of marriage, that is to produce and raise the next generation of civil society.

Society has a unique vested interest in promoting traditional marriage and it is for this very reason that the civil/secular aspect of marriage actually is primarily to create a contract between the marrying couple and their community. Society agrees to provide the couple with official recognition and support, including monies that are taken from the general tax-paying population and given over to the couple and their children in the form of tax breaks, school funding and other benefits. For their part, the couple make an implicit good faith agreement to remain bound in matrimony and to attempt to produce and responsibly raise any ensuing children.

Sadly, as part of the ongoing assault on our way of life as free and sovereign citizens under our Constitution, the forces of the "progressive" left have been attempting to diminish or kill the nuclear family and replace it with the nanny state. They denigrate and trivialize traditional marriage by attempting to reduce it to simply one of many "equally valid" hedonistic comme ci comme ça relationships (if ghey marriage, why not plural marriage, sibling marriage or even parents marrying their own grown children?).

Ghey couples are fundamentally different from traditional married couples. Only traditional married couples can create and raise the next generation of civil society so it is factually wrong to equate ghey unions with marriage. Gheys are just being used by the left as a wedge to trivialize traditional marriage.

However, these fake marriages are mere pimples on the face of society compared to the cancer that is the out-of-wedlock production of children. Fatherless feral pavement people produced outside of marriage are a bane to civil society. Society has a strong interest in promoting procreation only within the bonds of traditional enduring marriage.

More important than a child's birth status is how the child is raised. The key is being raised from a wee toddler to adulthood with both their biological father and mother in the home (sometimes an adoptive parents can be nearly as good). However, being raised by a baby momma with a string of feral kids all with different sperm donor dads is a recipe for disaster. Dem policies encourage this. Dems are evil.

14 posted on 07/19/2020 11:25:42 PM PDT by elengr (Benghazi betrayal: rescue denied - our guys DIED - treason's the reason obama s/b tried then fried!)
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To: jmacusa

In Putin’s Russia, the flat income tax is lower than in America. Much lower than what people pay in California

Plus, gay adoption and trans-sex “therapy” and “conversion” for kids is forbidden.


15 posted on 07/19/2020 11:29:36 PM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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To: rintintin

In Putin’s Russia corruption is a way of life.


16 posted on 07/19/2020 11:34:12 PM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: rintintin

I am old enough to remember when the U.S. was a Christian nation and Russia wasn’t.


17 posted on 07/19/2020 11:34:37 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: rintintin

The basis of civilization is that women need a person to defend, protect, and help the child that results from copulation.

How “the pill” affects that is important.


18 posted on 07/19/2020 11:40:17 PM PDT by mrsmith (US Media: "Every cop is a criminal; ALL the (non-'white') sinners saints!")
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To: dp0622

“You think there is some other purpose to this whole thing?..”

The modern-day Russia is the King of the North referred to in the bible book of Daniel. The Russian Orthodox church follows what Putin says ahead of what the bible says.


19 posted on 07/19/2020 11:49:36 PM PDT by howlinhound (Live your life so that, when you get up in the morning, Satan says, "Oh Crap!..He's awake" - Unknown)
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To: rintintin

Putin probably understands that the best bulwark against a Muslim takeover of his county is the promotion of Christianity. The best way to get the weeds out of your lawn is grass seed and fertilizer. A healthy crop of grass will choke off the weeds, and it’s a lot more efficient (and the results more pleasant) than playing whack-a-mole with the weeds (or Muslims).


20 posted on 07/20/2020 12:00:06 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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