Posted on 07/12/2020 11:11:17 AM PDT by Kaslin
One aspect of the various executive orders being issued all around the country impacts most retail businesses and private social groups, as well as public offices and spaces. Many of these EOs require stores and other public-facing operations wishing to reopen to mandate the wearing of face masks for not only employees but visitors to the establishment. This is quite common where I live, and the rules apply to most operations in a large number of states. But such an order leaves one very big question unanswered. What if the customer or visitor refuses to don a mask? Who is responsible for forcing them into compliance or physically blocking their entrance to the facility? That’s a question plaguing some of the nation’s major employers this month. NBC News published a brief report on this topic this week. (YouTube)
Countless viral videos show retail and restaurant employees taking heat from customers over mask requirements. While some business owners are training staff on how to deescalate the situation, others think employees shouldn’t be the ones required to enforce mask policies.
While this may not sound like a huge deal to some people, at least at first glance, we have already seen numerous examples of just how wrong such a situation can go. One of the worst of them took place in France, where bus drivers were given the responsibility of not allowing any passengers onboard sans face mask. One bus driver attempted to follow this mandate by asking four passengers to put on masks before boarding. He was rewarded for his trouble by being dragged out of his bus and literally beaten to death. (CNN)
A bus driver in France who was beaten up by passengers refusing to wear mandatory face masks died in hospital Friday, French Prime Minister Jean Castex and the victim’s family have said.
Philippe Monguillot, 59, was left brain dead after the attack in the southwestern city of Bayonne on July 5. His family decided to switch of his life support on Friday, news agency Agence France-Presse reported.
“We decided to let him go. The doctors were in favor and we were as well,” the victim’s 18-year-old daughter, Marie Monguillot, told AFP. Four men were detained and charged following the assault.
We’ve seen plenty of examples of similar incidents in the United States already, though thankfully none quite so brutal as this. But don’t be surprised if the same thing happens in America at some point.
And that brings us to the question of the day. If the local, municipal or state government issues an order saying that masks are mandatory inside of stores, churches, or anyplace else in the private sector, whose responsibility is it to enforce that decree? Sure, the store can put up a sign saying that masks are “required” to enter and do business. I don’t leave the house much these days (obviously) but I’ve seen plenty of such signs on the rare occasions when I’ve had to venture out. But what happens if someone ignores the sign and walks in anyway?
Certainly, an employee or manager could politely remind them, but the person could just as easily refuse. And then what? You can tell them that they won’t be served and wait for them to give up and leave, I suppose. But if they become belligerent, you’re probably going to have to call the cops on them. Given how long the average police response time is, you now have some time on your hands with a stock clerk or cashier facing down a potentially violent individual. And I’m sure that stories about your place of business calling the cops on somebody looking to pick up a bag of grass seed will do wonders for your customer approval ratings.
I’m not saying there’s an ideal solution to this problem staring us in the face. There aren’t enough cops in any precinct in the nation to station one outside every Target, Walmart and gas station to make sure everyone is complying with the local mask orders. But it’s the consumer who refuses to wear the mask who should be held accountable if anyone must be. Fining or otherwise punishing businesses and churches for being unable to control the behavior of their customers or members can not be allowed as long as a good-faith effort was made to inform the public of the rules.
Costco in Midlothian VA has two very rude self appointed female mask police. I have had it. Won’t return until these fascists are muzzled. This disdainful Costco experience is not for me, and my money.
Buh, bye!
There's your mistake right there. If you aren't going to wear a mask then keep your mouth shut.
That's true. But some people aren't healthy even if they think they are, or they go shopping feeling under the weather.
It’s not virtue signalling. It’s not being an ass. Having done time in retail I know much it can suck. I also know how little of what people mad at them for they have any say in. And finally I know just how many little tools they have available to them to exact revenge. It’s amazing how many discounts I’ve gotten just by being nice. And out of stock items suddenly found in the back. All kinds of good stuff happens just by remembering that they’re people and deserve to be treated with basic human dignity.
And the customers are definitely NOT fine. All these confrontations making their onto youtube are entitled jerks.
and putting a mask on to cut their o2 supply by 20% and recirculate junk up their nose isnt desirable for them
As a long time doorman at a private membership only liquor bar in Texas you have no immunity from prosecution if you physically touch aka assault someone if crap breaks out and your customer is injured or harmed in any way at all. I know from first hand experience.
As a bouncer you hope it doesn't come down to charges being filed for assault against you if you go too far but you can be filed on and arrested for assault if the situation goes sideways on you. It usually didn't though thankfully. Seen it happen a few times over the years with the inexperienced young and tough breed. Kind of depends what is considered to be what is reasonable enough force to use. Was never arrested but was advised by dispatched officers to be careful.
It’s funny to see the folks here suddenly cheering them on. So many years we’ve made so much fun of the folks freaking out over lack chicken nuggets or whatever. Now all of a sudden they love it. Failing to see it’s the exact same kind of entitled BS.
Sounds like a winner to me. Owner put some thought into the wording. Smart person.
Like sheep being led to the slaughter.
Or simply pull them down under their noses therefore rendering them totally ineffective. But hey, you have your mask on.
“If a store has a sign demanding masks, I choose whether to wear a mask or shop elsewhere. They can’t enforce the “law” but they can make rules.”
Last week, my wife, her hairdresser, our siblings and their spouses, other relatives and friends older and younger could see this mask issue costing someone’s life.
Basically, all of us decided to buy a supply of cheap masks and carry them in our vehicles, the women will carry 2 in their purses, one for them and one for the typical forgetful males in the family.
We ordered 50 from Amazon with some leftover giftcard money and got 50 for about 5$ total. My wife had a hair appt. Friday morning and she put her mask on as she got out of the car @ the salon and took it off when she got back into the car to drive home. It stayed on the dash in the sun until we used it this morning at our local fruit stand. Both masks went on the dash as we got in the vehicle and shut the doors.
We don’t wear a mask while driving or riding in vehicles. We don’t wear them walking on our culdesac, we don’t wear them while working in our garden, nor in our home.
We are not going to kill anyone nor be killed by someone for not wearing a mask in a store or business.
Nor will we be fined $500 for not wearing one.
Himmler would have loved you.
It is virtue signaling and I am secure in my own virtue to not need a prop to let others of my virtue. Wear your mask and I will not wear it for you.
That sign is absolutely perfect.
Quick run to Nazi comparison. Which means you lose.
Police these days aren’t even allowed to defend themselves. They sure as hell aren’t going to do anything about a mask call.
It’s only virtue signalling if you really want everybody to notice how masked you are. The rest of the time it’s just following the freaking rules. Maybe more people should be related to outlaw bikers. I grew up in a world that had bars that had “no colors” signs on them. Was it virtue signaling for my “uncles” to stow their vests before entering the bar? Or was it them respecting the rules established by the business? I vote the later.
So like a small mindless child. Has never worked on me. Simply designed to tray and shut down a conversation. Better luck with some other guy.
Yes, highly effective. That’s why the military has thrown out all its gas masks and just hand out disposable masks and page protectors.
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