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Edgy voters might reject the 2020 election results if the Democrat wins the popular vote but loses the electoral vote
Yahoo Finance ^ | 07/01/2020 | Rick Newman

Posted on 07/01/2020 10:07:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

We’ve had close elections before, but political experts are bracing for events that might be unprecedented come November.

Surprisingly large portions of both Republicans and Democrats seem poised to challenge the results of the 2020 presidential election if their side loses. Some even favor authoritarian rule over elections as the best way to run the country. And a new worry for 2020 is the risk that more mail-in voting could delay official results well past Election Day, leaving voters wondering whether it will be Donald Trump’s agenda or Joe Biden’s, once January arrives.

New research by the Democracy Fund Voter Study Group finds that 38% of Democrats favor a do-over election if their candidate, Joe Biden, wins the popular vote this year but loses the electoral vote, as Hillary Clinton did in 2016. Among Republicans, 11% favor a do-over if Biden wins the electoral vote but President Trump wins the popular vote. In the U.S. system, electoral votes are awarded for each state a candidate wins, rather than for the national tally, and there’s no provision for a repeat election if there’s a split decision. The electoral vote carries the day.

If Trump wins and there’s credible evidence of interference by a foreign government—as there was in 2016, we now know—57% of Democrats say they’d back a do-over election. And if Trump lost but claimed there was voter fraud, 29% of Republicans say it would be appropriate if he refused to leave office.

“There are multiple contexts in which people might plausibly be mobilized to reject the legitimacy of the election,” political scientist Larry Diamond of Stanford University, who co-authored the Democracy Fund analysis, says in the latest episode of the Yahoo Finance Electionomics podcast.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020; electoralcollege; popularvote
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To: SeekAndFind

That has been the case since 2016.


41 posted on 07/01/2020 10:38:29 AM PDT by odawg
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Heh... smells like DNC PMS BS to me. Of course, it's what's known as a hypothetical scenario.

42 posted on 07/01/2020 10:41:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SeekAndFind

You can’t redo JUST the Presidential ticket. You’d have to redo ALL of them

Meaning, come Jan. 20, there would be no one in the House or White House, and the President Pro Tem (Chuck Grassley)of the 2/3 left of Senators would be running the show


43 posted on 07/01/2020 10:45:17 AM PDT by digger48
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To: SeekAndFind

Edgy voters will throw a tantrum if they don’t commit enough fraud to win against the American people, regardless of the (irrelevant) popular vote.


44 posted on 07/01/2020 10:46:56 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: SeekAndFind

Too bad. I can get edgy too.


45 posted on 07/01/2020 10:49:31 AM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen)
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To: SeekAndFind

I HOPE THEY DO.


46 posted on 07/01/2020 10:50:16 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot
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To: odawg

Since 2000, you mean. The Democrats have not accepted the results of a Presidential election they lost since 1988.


47 posted on 07/01/2020 10:51:12 AM PDT by The Pack Knight
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To: Repeal 16-17

That’s probably why the Rats and anarchists (forgive the redundancy) want to defund or abolish the police, so they wouldn’t have as much resistance (on the streets) when Trump wins by a landslide. Of course, they aren’t figuring in the armed citizenry.


48 posted on 07/01/2020 10:51:30 AM PDT by Theophilous Meatyard III
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To: SeekAndFind

So, if Trump would win both the popular vote and the EC..then the Dems would back off? Yeah, right.


49 posted on 07/01/2020 10:51:34 AM PDT by Leep (We can go to the grocery store but we can't go to work?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t want mail in ballots, but if they are going to d it there should be rules. If mail in ballots aren’t received by Election Day they shouldn’t be counted. Also there should be a box where you can hand deliver your vote and get a receipt with your name on it.


50 posted on 07/01/2020 10:52:41 AM PDT by McGavin999 (Not one politician or journalist has died of Covid)
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To: cuban leaf
Trump plays football to put runs on the scoreboard, not get the most men on base.

I think you are mixing your metaphors before they hatch.

If the Dems don't like the electoral college, they can propose an amendment to the Constitution to go by popular vote. The problem will be that it will then be a race to the bottom of dropping voting age and stuffing ballot boxes in Dem controlled regions.

I would prefer that the electoral college be changed to two at large electors for each state and one for each congressional district like Maine and Nebraska. That way one city's cheating would be limited to a couple of electors instead of spoiling a whole state's worth (presuming that the cheating is in a district which is already a Dem stronghold).

51 posted on 07/01/2020 10:54:10 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (In 2016 Obama ended America's 220 year tradition of peaceful transfer of power after an election.)
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To: Sacajaweau

RE: Whoever thought of it was a genius for his time.

Without the electoral college, we would not even have a United States of America. The smaller states refused to join the union for fear that their voices will be minimized by the bigger states of NY, PA and MA. The Electoral College was developed in order to address the concerns of the other states.


52 posted on 07/01/2020 10:55:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This is stupid. The Electors will vote, the Electors’ votes will be sent to Congress, Congress convenes and certifies the votes. And that’s the result.

This article is written with zero concept of how our President is elected and how said election is finalized.


53 posted on 07/01/2020 10:56:00 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: SeekAndFind

Um, losing the electoral vote isn’t “ edgy”
It’s losing the election!


54 posted on 07/01/2020 10:56:28 AM PDT by silverleaf (Great Things Never Come from Comfort Zones)
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To: Republican Wildcat

RE: The Electors will vote

Yep, and they will be identified and harassed and they and their families threatened with harm.


55 posted on 07/01/2020 10:57:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: dakine

Right, there is no such thing as a “national popular vote” - that is just a collection of data from completely separate elections that were formed by completely separate entities and statutes.


56 posted on 07/01/2020 10:57:40 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: SeekAndFind

Give me a break.

Democrats only believe in democratic elections when they win them.

Period.


57 posted on 07/01/2020 11:00:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed the Communist Revolution would arrive disguised as the common cold?)
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To: KarlInOhio

I would prefer that the electoral college be changed to two at large electors for each state and one for each congressional district like Maine and Nebraska.

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Sorry, but I’m a little slow today. It’s already two senators per state and one elector for each representative district. How is what you’re proposing any different?


58 posted on 07/01/2020 11:03:56 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Our forefathers still let the Constitution stand despite the fact that there was no check on the Supreme Court. They just couldn't figure out a solution. And we see their problem today.

And of course, the Constitution was approved conditionally with the Bill of Rights to be added.

It didn't take all 13 states to make the Constitution effective.

59 posted on 07/01/2020 11:06:53 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sneakyuser

‘We are not ‘America’ we are the UNITED States, which elects the President using the results of the Popular Vote tallies from each state (Electors’ votes) and the Electoral College results from the States.’

that’s all well and good, but the nonsense of the winner takes all policy that now pervades the system, which had its beginnings in the 1824 election to cheat Jackson in favor of Quincy Adams, deprives the voice of many within the state itself...EV’s need to be allocated by congressional district, as ME and NE are capable of doing...


60 posted on 07/01/2020 11:10:19 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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