A Warning From Sweden’s Coronavirus Response

Forbes ^ | June 4, 2020 | William A. Haseltine

[DoodleBob]

Sweden now has among the highest per capita death rates from Covid-19 in the world. Why?

The answer is simple. Sweden was lax in its implementation of protective measures in the face of the outbreak, refusing to implement broad stay at home orders for residents, or to enforce recommendations to wear masks or social distancing measures. Other than the government decision to shut down universities and high schools, compliance to public health recommendations was entirely voluntary.

Early on, my Swedish friends seemed proud of their exceptionalism. They sent many of their children to school without many of the protections that are both in place and under consideration in many other countries. Outside the country, many voiced their praise of Sweden’s “common sense” approach, which they wagered would be less economically destructive than stricter measures and would not lead to any greater number of deaths.

They were wrong. Even the chief architect of the Swedish anti-coronavirus plan is able to admit it. In an interview translated by Reuters, Sweden’s chief epidemiologist told Swedish radio that the country clearly could have done better in fighting the virus and that there was “quite obviously a potential for improvement in what we have done.” In particular, he said Sweden should have started testing earlier and more extensively and they should have done more to protect older adults in Sweden’s long term care centers, where more than half of all Sweden’s coronavirus-deaths have occurred.

[UNGN]

Either The lockdowns were completely unnecessary or the BLM protests are going to result in 70K - 100K additional deaths over the next 3 months. We’ll know in a few weeks.

Sweden doesn’t have a lot of double chins, so their “CCV deaths” are likely 75 years old and above.

Anyone have the the Mediun age of death from CCV in Sweden?

If its 79, F’ing Yawn.

[Chgogal]

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[E. Pluribus Unum]

It was a scam.

0.026% mortality rate and falling.

80% of people who get it have no symptoms.

You’re just a perverted control freak who gets his jollies out of terrorizing people and destroying their livelihoods.

[DoodleBob]

Actually, the point is that Sweden's economy - which should in theory be better off - is in reality just as bad as that of other/"shut down" countries.

Now, a good bit of that is because Sweden depends on tourism, which dried up. Also, Sweden recommended that her people not travel domestically, which had a knock-on economic impact. So her deteriorating economy isn't a purely internal matter.

This doesn't mean Sweden's risk-based approach to keeping things open was unwise. I think it was pretty smart. But the Swedes have mentally surrendered their freedom for the "wisdom of experts." If the experts said "shut it down" then they'd have dutifully walked off that cliff.

[DoodleBob]

No, but thank for your commentary.

[DoodleBob]

It’s is the older natural Swedes. It may also be permitted eldercide.

[Gay State Conservative]

later

[palmer]

Thanks for posting the normalized and time-standardized numbers. Obviously we have some issues in the NE and some other cities in some states. But the numbers tell me we are in pretty good shape otherwise.

The remaining unanswered question is how much immunity there is. NYC has 25% antibodies, but we don't know if that translates to immunity. Sweden's antibody numbers were apparently disappointing.

[palmer]

0.026% mortality rate and falling.

In NYC they have 25% antibodies from random testing. They lost 0.25% of their population. That's 1% mortality. That's probably worst case since many of those deaths were at substandard hospitals.

[Nifster]

meh

[rmichaelj]

Don’t know for this strain. Average coronavirus immunity is estimated 2-3 years.

[pluvmantelo]

Thanks. Very interesting.

[kingpins10]

Me either. The amount of suicide and other deaths will far exceed COVID deaths, but you’ll never hear squat about it.

[PeteB570]

Listing 4,639 deaths right now.

60-68 335 deaths
70-79 1,017 deaths
80-89 1,906 deaths
90+ 1,181 deaths

Under 60 200 deaths

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa

[Robert DeLong]

The Covid-19 issue is officially over DoodleBob. 8>)

Time to retire your spreadsheet.

[Wuli]

See you a year from now with all the same data up to that point. Then the comparisons will be more meaningful as to whether or not Sweden took a better LONG TERM approach.

[fishtank]

Please don’t take our Lord’s name in vain.

He is the Creator, the Redeemer, the Lamb of God, the Word of God, the Alpha and the Omega.

[daniel1212]

Sweden now has among the highest per capita death rates from Covid-19 in the world

Not what https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries states:

#	Country, Other	Total Cases	New Cases	Total Deaths	New Deaths	Total Recovered	Active Cases	Serious, Critical	Tot Cases/ 1M pop	Deaths/ 1M pop	Total Tests	Tests/ 1M pop	Population	Continent
1	San Marino	680		42		428	210	1	20,044	1,238	4,749	139,981	33,926	Europe
2	Belgium	59,072	+165	9,580	+14	16,190	33,302	121	5,098	827	923,820	79,734	11,586,214	Europe
3	Andorra	852		51		741	60	7	11,028	660	3,750	48,539	77,257	Europe
4	UK	284,868	+1,557	40,465	+204	N/A	N/A	604	4,198	596	5,438,712	80,144	67,861,743	Europe
5	Spain	288,058		27,134		N/A	N/A	617	6,161	580	4,063,843	86,920	46,753,591	Europe
6	Italy	234,531		33,774		163,781	36,976	316	3,879	559	4,114,572	68,046	60,467,569	Europe
7	Sweden	43,887	+114	4,656	+17	N/A	N/A	198	4,347	461	275,500	27,291	10,094,947	Europe
8	France	153,055		29,111		70,504	53,440	1,094	2,345	446	1,384,633	21,216	65,263,909	Europe
9	Netherlands	47,335	+183	6,011	+6	N/A	N/A	97	2,763	351	388,113	22,654	17,132,352	Europe
10	Sint Maarten	77		15		61	1	1	1,797	350	470	10,971	42,841	North America
11	Ireland	25,163		1,670		22,698	795	36	5,100	338	348,416	70,617	4,933,861

[DoodleBob]

Yea, I realized I went from a daily posting to weekly to whenever. My job as a shrubber got in the way.

Until I see null and DoughtyOne on the USS Missouri signing a peace treaty with COVID19 then I won't consider this war over. However, for now I'm hereby withholding further mass posting of my data (but the spreadsheet inside the DoodleBob compound will remain live).

[DoodleBob]

Daniel, with all due respect, that data show Sweden having the 7th highest per capita fatality value out of 180+ countries with fatalities. They’re in the 4th percentile.