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A Warning From Sweden’s Coronavirus Response
Forbes ^ | June 4, 2020 | William A. Haseltine

Posted on 06/05/2020 5:51:02 PM PDT by DoodleBob

Sweden now has among the highest per capita death rates from Covid-19 in the world. Why?

The answer is simple. Sweden was lax in its implementation of protective measures in the face of the outbreak, refusing to implement broad stay at home orders for residents, or to enforce recommendations to wear masks or social distancing measures. Other than the government decision to shut down universities and high schools, compliance to public health recommendations was entirely voluntary.

Early on, my Swedish friends seemed proud of their exceptionalism. They sent many of their children to school without many of the protections that are both in place and under consideration in many other countries. Outside the country, many voiced their praise of Sweden’s “common sense” approach, which they wagered would be less economically destructive than stricter measures and would not lead to any greater number of deaths.

They were wrong. Even the chief architect of the Swedish anti-coronavirus plan is able to admit it. In an interview translated by Reuters, Sweden’s chief epidemiologist told Swedish radio that the country clearly could have done better in fighting the virus and that there was “quite obviously a potential for improvement in what we have done.” In particular, he said Sweden should have started testing earlier and more extensively and they should have done more to protect older adults in Sweden’s long term care centers, where more than half of all Sweden’s coronavirus-deaths have occurred.

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1 posted on 06/05/2020 5:51:02 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: NobleFree; Paradox; Paladin2; PA Engineer; aMorePerfectUnion; gas_dr; null and void; DoughtyOne; ...
This is also an important part of this saga:

For all the loss Swedes have endured, there has been no associated economic gain, which is what many claimed was the saving grace of the Swedish approach. According to the European Commission, Sweden’s economic forecast of a 6% reduction in GDP for 2020 is on par with its neighbors, Norway and Denmark who implemented much stricter lockdown measures.

A full and proper examination of the US and SE cumulative Coronavirus fatality (case numbers are too susceptible to testing differences; funny business can also arise with fatalities but dead is dead) times series would help. Apologies for any repetition for those who've seen this previously.

Below find that data - I also included data for other select countries and most states: I standardized each Country's cumulative COVID-19 fatality count per GitHub by its population, then multiply the resulting quotient by the US' population of 329MM to put everyone on a common/US scale. I then index each Country's time-series to Day 1, where their size-adjusted fatality count is right before it breaches 1,000 people. This corrects for what I call the "Golf Problem" where broadcasts of the Masters etc have to show not only each golfer's score, but which hole they're at. I also list the Day 1 date and the population for reference, i.e., Sweden has finished the 74th hole while the US is still on the 72nd hole, but we can compare their 'scores' as of the 72nd hole.

Country Sweden United States
Day 1=Date prior to 1,000-size-adj Fatalities 3/23/20 3/25/20
Population 10,333,456 329,556,365 Sweden - US % excess SE vs US
Day 74 145,492 - - -
Day 73 144,854 - - -
Day 72 142,494 108,211 34,283 31.7%
Day 71 140,421 107,175 33,246 31.0%
Day 70 140,166 106,180 33,986 32.0%
Day 69 140,166 105,149 35,017 33.3%
Day 68 138,731 104,381 34,350 32.9%
Day 67 136,052 103,776 32,276 31.1%
Day 66 134,585 102,809 31,776 30.9%
Day 65 131,555 101,616 29,939 29.5%
Day 64 128,494 100,418 28,076 28.0%
Day 63 127,505 98,913 28,592 28.9%
Day 62 127,314 98,220 29,094 29.6%
Day 61 125,177 97,720 27,457 28.1%
Day 60 123,455 97,087 26,368 27.2%
Day 59 122,179 95,979 26,200 27.3%
Day 58 119,372 94,702 24,670 26.1%
Day 57 117,937 93,439 24,498 26.2%
Day 56 117,331 91,921 25,410 27.6%
Day 55 117,172 90,347 26,825 29.7%
Day 54 116,279 89,562 26,717 29.8%
Day 53 112,547 88,754 23,793 26.8%
Day 52 110,347 87,530 22,817 26.1%
Day 51 105,659 85,898 19,761 23.0%
Day 50 103,841 84,119 19,722 23.4%
Day 49 102,852 82,376 20,476 24.9%
Day 48 102,693 80,682 22,011 27.3%
Day 47 101,258 79,526 21,732 27.3%
Day 46 96,952 78,795 18,157 23.0%
Day 45 93,795 77,180 16,615 21.5%
Day 44 91,020 75,662 15,358 20.3%
Day 43 88,309 73,431 14,878 20.3%
Day 42 85,439 71,064 14,375 20.2%
Day 41 85,120 68,922 16,198 23.5%
Day 40 84,610 67,682 16,928 25.0%
Day 39 82,473 66,369 16,104 24.3%
Day 38 78,519 64,943 13,576 20.9%
Day 37 75,106 62,996 12,110 19.2%
Day 36 72,523 60,967 11,556 19.0%
Day 35 69,971 58,355 11,616 19.9%
Day 34 69,908 56,259 13,649 24.3%
Day 33 68,632 54,881 13,751 25.1%
Day 32 64,454 53,755 10,699 19.9%
Day 31 61,775 51,949 9,826 18.9%
Day 30 56,290 49,954 6,336 12.7%
Day 29 50,390 46,622 3,768 8.1%
Day 28 49,114 44,444 4,670 10.5%
Day 27 48,189 42,094 6,095 14.5%
Day 26 44,649 40,661 3,988 9.8%
Day 25 42,512 38,664 3,848 10.0%
Day 24 38,366 36,773 1,593 4.3%
Day 23 32,945 32,916 29 0.1%
Day 22 29,309 28,325 984 3.5%
Day 21 28,671 25,831 2,840 11.0%
Day 20 28,288 23,528 4,760 20.2%
Day 19 27,746 22,019 5,727 26.0%
Day 18 25,290 20,462 4,828 23.6%
Day 17 21,910 18,586 3,324 17.9%
Day 16 18,848 16,478 2,370 14.4%
Day 15 15,213 14,695 518 3.5%
Day 14 12,789 12,722 67 0.5%
Day 13 11,896 10,783 1,113 10.3%
Day 12 11,417 9,619 1,798 18.7%
Day 11 9,823 8,407 1,416 16.8%
Day 10 7,622 7,087 535 7.6%
Day 9 5,741 5,926 (185) -3.1%
Day 8 4,656 4,757 (101) -2.1%
Day 7 3,508 3,873 (365) -9.4%
Day 6 3,349 2,978 371 12.4%
Day 5 3,349 2,467 882 35.7%
Day 4 2,456 2,026 430 21.2%
Day 3 1,977 1,581 396 25.1%
Day 2 1,148 1,209 (61) -5.0%
Day 1 797 942 (145) -15.4%

In short, Sweden's cumulative size-adjusted fatality total has consistently exceeded the US' total by 20%+ since around Day 32 (April 24 for the US, April 26th for Sweden). Thus, they haven't exactly been 'successful' in terms of virus fatalities vs the US. However, they're not as bad as Belgium, Italy, France, Spain, and the UK though they have risen above France, Ireland and the Netherlands.

SE's size- and time-adjusted fatalities are generally lower than all the States that are higher than the US total. However, this is an apples-to-oranges comparison, e.g., State to Nation. In truth, you need to adjust Stockholm out of SE's total when doing a State comparison to be apples-to-apples; for those following at home, Stockholm's fatality count of 2,136 on June 5 across 972,647 citizens on a size-adjusted basis with the US is 723,729 fatalities which is higher than anything in this post; non-Stockholm SE size-adjusted fatalities would be 85,410, which is not apples-to-apples comparable to the US but is there for reference.

Furthermore, Sweden has NOT been a conservative dream in terms of OVERALL approach. Yes, we like the open businesses and open schools. But when you read things like

"We are putting decisions in the hands of those who know better"

it's a sober reminder that all that good stuff comes with Greta Thunberg-like environmentalis that just happily shut down its last coal-fired power plant two years ahead of schedule.

Yes, their businesses stayed open but they're not immune to recession, as noted above.

What seems to be missed on people, is Sweden got to this happy place because they TRUST their government to tell them the right thing to do. Their govt made these decisions based on "science." This is the same country in which their "science" that just happily shut its last coal-fired power plant.

And when their "science" promotes contact tracing, or if in the fall it calls for a shutdown, they'll be all-in.

It may be great to take Sweden's approach - and for the record lest I be confused as a 'no freedom till vaccine' nutjob, I wish the US had followed SE's more reasonable, business-friendly and age-based approach to school closures - but SE's positives cannot be disentangled from their faith in authority.

Country Date of Day 1=day priot to hitting 1,000+ population-adjusted deaths Population Day 64 Day 65 Day 66 Day 67 Day 68 Day 69 Day 70 Day 71 Day 72 Day 73
San Marino 3/3/20 33,574 402,449 402,449 402,449 402,449 402,449 402,449 402,449 402,449 402,449 402,449
Belgium 3/19/20 11,524,454 262,685 263,429 264,144 265,373 266,288 266,918 267,775 268,462 269,663 270,321
Andorra 3/21/20 77,543 216,749 216,749 216,749 216,749 216,749 216,749 216,749 216,749 216,749 216,749
Spain 3/13/20 47,100,396 192,128 192,855 192,855 193,877 194,360 195,129 195,493 200,307 200,657 201,175
United Kingdom 3/20/20 66,435,550 180,936 182,335 182,920 183,520 184,185 186,229 188,099 189,706 190,773 191,333
Italy 3/5/20 60,243,406 163,883 165,212 166,273 167,176 168,155 169,096 170,163 171,596 172,920 173,757
Sweden 3/23/20 10,333,456 128,494 131,555 134,585 136,052 138,731 140,166 140,166 140,421 142,494 144,854
France 3/18/20 67,076,000 138,232 138,640 138,640 138,640 139,387 139,829 140,188 140,512 140,836 141,092
Ireland 3/25/20 4,921,500 109,216 109,752 110,153 110,555 110,622 110,488 111,024 111,091 111,426 -
Netherlands 3/17/20 17,451,031 108,285 108,908 109,418 109,663 110,097 110,305 110,456 110,947 111,231 111,835
United States 3/25/20 329,556,365 100,418 101,616 102,809 103,776 104,381 105,149 106,180 107,175 108,211 -
Switzerland 3/16/20 8,586,550 72,386 72,578 72,616 72,846 73,038 73,115 73,153 73,422 73,499 73,575
Macedonia 3/24/20 679,600 56,252 57,706 58,676 61,101 63,525 64,495 67,890 68,375 70,314 71,284
Luxembourg 3/17/20 613,894 58,514 58,514 58,514 58,514 58,514 59,051 59,051 59,051 59,051 59,051
Portugal 3/23/20 10,276,617 42,651 43,036 43,485 43,902 44,351 44,768 45,217 45,666 46,050 46,403
Germany 3/25/20 83,149,300 33,404 33,570 33,705 33,808 33,848 33,907 33,939 34,093 34,224 -
Denmark 3/22/20 5,822,763 31,808 31,865 31,865 31,978 32,148 32,148 32,317 32,487 32,600 32,827
Iran 3/9/20 83,331,064 26,438 26,628 26,825 27,106 27,296 27,434 27,636 27,909 28,154 28,407
Austria 3/23/20 8,902,600 23,729 23,803 23,877 24,728 24,728 24,728 24,728 24,728 24,765 24,802
Iceland 3/23/20 364,260 9,047 9,047 9,047 9,047 9,047 9,047 9,047 9,047 9,047 9,047
Canada 4/1/20 37,979,093 65,765 66,963 - - - - - - - -
Israel 4/1/20 9,180,000 10,447 10,447 - - - - - - - -

Municipality Date of Day 1 = day prior to breaching size-adj 1,000 COVID19 fatalities Population Day 64 Day 65 Day 66 Day 67 Day 68 Day 69 Day 70 Day 71 Day 72 Day 73
New York 3/19/20 19,795,791 477,176 479,490 481,121 483,552 485,084 486,798 488,430 490,078 491,693 492,975
New Jersey 3/23/20 8,958,013 409,977 411,706 417,151 419,431 424,214 428,003 430,358 431,204 433,007 437,053
Connecticut 3/23/20 3,590,886 343,425 345,903 349,023 351,134 354,989 359,027 361,964 364,350 364,533 366,094
Massachusetts 3/25/20 6,794,422 317,555 322,066 325,850 328,275 332,058 341,225 343,651 346,900 349,277 -
Rhode Island 3/29/20 1,056,298 224,010 224,634 228,378 231,498 235,866 - - - - -
District of Columbia 3/24/20 672,228 215,708 218,159 222,081 225,513 226,493 228,454 229,435 230,415 231,886 232,866
Louisiana 3/20/20 4,670,724 188,319 189,307 189,801 189,801 190,577 192,059 193,329 195,163 196,504 196,927
Michigan 3/24/20 9,922,576 174,899 177,157 178,419 179,548 181,441 182,371 183,501 184,729 184,995 185,826
Pennsylvania 3/28/20 12,802,503 142,531 142,994 143,483 145,955 147,808 150,125 - - - -
Maryland 3/31/20 6,006,401 142,491 144,905 146,387 - - - - - - -
Illinois 3/27/20 12,859,995 136,025 137,563 139,049 139,869 142,663 144,046 146,993 - - -
Delaware 3/27/20 945,934 124,028 125,770 127,512 128,208 129,950 130,647 134,480 - - -
Indiana 3/25/20 6,619,680 101,062 102,954 105,045 105,792 106,240 106,638 109,376 109,874 111,069 -
United States 3/25/20 329,556,365 100,418 101,616 102,809 103,776 104,381 105,149 106,180 107,175 108,211 -
Colorado 3/24/20 5,456,574 81,656 84,132 85,883 86,789 87,152 87,273 88,058 89,024 90,232 91,319
Mississippi 3/27/20 2,992,333 78,195 79,627 80,838 81,389 84,472 86,124 87,446 - - -
New Hampshire 4/1/20 1,330,608 65,633 67,615 - - - - - - - -
Minnesota 3/31/20 5,489,594 64,956 65,856 67,597 - - - - - - -
Ohio 3/29/20 11,614,373 61,148 62,595 64,070 65,262 66,397 - - - - -
Iowa 4/1/20 3,123,899 60,554 61,504 - - - - - - - -
New Mexico 4/1/20 2,085,109 59,270 60,534 - - - - - - - -
Georgia 3/23/20 10,214,860 58,718 60,234 61,428 62,654 63,009 63,654 65,138 66,364 66,783 68,493
Virginia 3/29/20 8,382,993 54,055 54,723 55,313 56,138 56,807 - - - - -
Nevada 3/24/20 2,890,845 45,144 45,828 46,740 47,310 47,538 47,766 47,880 47,880 49,134 49,020
Arizona 3/30/20 6,828,065 44,307 45,514 47,444 48,217 - - - - - -
Alabama 3/31/20 4,858,979 44,289 44,289 44,289 - - - - - - -
Washington 3/8/20 7,170,351 43,157 43,985 44,674 44,904 45,547 46,329 46,650 46,696 46,880 47,891
Missouri 4/1/20 6,083,672 42,849 43,066 - - - - - - - -
Florida 3/29/20 20,271,272 39,830 39,977 41,115 41,716 42,383 - - - - -
California 3/27/20 39,144,818 34,888 35,477 35,713 36,092 36,706 36,824 37,414 - - -
Wisconsin 3/29/20 5,771,337 33,919 34,090 34,832 35,175 35,746 - - - - -
Kentucky 3/30/20 4,425,092 33,141 33,588 33,514 34,109 - - - - - -
South Carolina 3/27/20 4,896,146 32,510 32,780 33,251 33,655 33,722 33,722 33,722 - - -
Nebraska 4/1/20 1,896,190 29,546 32,500 - - - - - - - -
Vermont 3/18/20 626,042 28,426 28,426 28,426 28,426 28,426 28,426 28,426 28,426 28,953 28,953
North Dakota 3/29/20 756,927 27,865 27,865 29,606 28,736 28,736 - - - - -
Oklahoma 3/27/20 3,911,338 27,720 28,142 28,142 28,142 28,563 28,732 28,984 - - -
Kansas 3/29/20 2,911,641 23,882 24,561 25,693 25,580 25,693 - - - - -
Maine 3/30/20 1,329,328 22,064 23,304 23,552 23,552 - - - - - -
Texas 4/2/20 27,469,114 21,307 - - - - - - - - -
Tennessee 3/31/20 6,600,299 18,874 19,373 20,022 - - - - - - -
Idaho 3/28/20 1,654,930 16,329 16,329 16,528 16,528 16,528 16,528 - - - -
Arkansas 3/31/20 2,978,204 15,049 15,713 16,709 - - - - - - -
Puerto Rico 4/1/20 3,680,058 12,537 12,537 - - - - - - - -
Oregon 3/27/20 4,028,977 12,351 12,515 12,515 12,597 12,842 13,006 13,006 - - -
Montana 3/29/20 1,032,949 5,424 5,424 5,424 5,424 5,424 - - - - -

2 posted on 06/05/2020 5:51:53 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: DoodleBob

Don’t care


3 posted on 06/05/2020 6:07:14 PM PDT by Phillyred
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To: DoodleBob

I would not believe anything from Forbes anymore than CNN or Teen Vogue.


4 posted on 06/05/2020 6:07:26 PM PDT by willk (A bias news media is not a free press.)
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To: DoodleBob

The author of this article sounds like he’s glad that the swedes got what they deserved by not listening to the wise government and their shutdown hysteria. Just fyi, he is making a causal connection that has yet to be proved. Swedes might be suceptible due to genetic factors, or have a particularly gentrified population, or any of a number of other factors. He just sounds pissed off and vindicated that those merry swedes photographed out for a drink while we were hunkering down around a candle are now dead. That’s the tone I’m hearing.


5 posted on 06/05/2020 6:08:47 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: DoodleBob

Just which “Swedes” are getting this?

Real Swedes, or the imports?


6 posted on 06/05/2020 6:09:41 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Phillyred

me neither....open up OUR country....people who are afraid have the CHOICE to stay home under their bed....and I think they should....


7 posted on 06/05/2020 6:10:18 PM PDT by cherry
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To: DoodleBob

Not buying it for a second. Delaying death rate by draconian measures is not the same as avoiding them. Plus doing so means natural immunity has no chance of developing.


8 posted on 06/05/2020 6:14:16 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: cherry

Forbes joins in the obsession to prove full lockdowns are good.

3 Jun: BBC: Coronavirus: Sweden’s Tegnell admits too many died
However, he was unclear what Sweden should have done differently and at a press conference later on Wednesday later he underlined that “we basically still think that is the right strategy for Sweden”...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52903717

they never mention Belgium (home of the European Union)

Belgium: 835.93 deaths per million
Sweden: 447.99 deaths per million


9 posted on 06/05/2020 6:15:36 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: cherry

What do you mean, we are open

Well, at least Texas is . There might be guidelines but from what I see it’s just damn near business as usual


10 posted on 06/05/2020 6:15:40 PM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: DoodleBob

Your hypochondria is not grounds for suspending my Constitutional rights.

Try it again and see what happens.


11 posted on 06/05/2020 6:35:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed the Communist Revolution would arrive disguised as the common cold?)
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To: dfwgator

What about ages? The average age of Covid deaths around the globe is 80+. The article acts like sending kids to school was a bad thing when 0 children died


12 posted on 06/05/2020 6:36:53 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: DoodleBob
For all the loss Swedes have endured, there has been no associated economic gain, which is what many claimed was the saving grace of the Swedish approach. According to the European Commission, Sweden’s economic forecast of a 6% reduction in GDP for 2020 is on par with its neighbors, Norway and Denmark who implemented much stricter lockdown measures.

Loosely translated: Shutting down most of the businesses in a country doesn't affect the bottom line.

The takeaway; don't bother opening back up, it won't help anyone economically anyway.

13 posted on 06/05/2020 6:37:33 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Manuel OKelley

I’ve been carrying on the same way I always did, going to stores and restaurants. When our breakfast restaurant (taqueria) was only open to carry out, my friends and I took chairs and sat by the front door outside.
The only confirmed case within 30 miles of me was a friend’s daughter’s friend, who stayed with them at the time. 8 people in constant contact with her, no one came down with symptoms.
I’d bet some of the family did have it but showed no symptoms. We’ve been had.


14 posted on 06/05/2020 6:39:43 PM PDT by TStro (Better to die on your feet than live on your knees)
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Of course it’s the highest per capita — the effects of herd

Ignore the indignation. The data analysis is misleading.


15 posted on 06/05/2020 6:41:30 PM PDT by Gene Eric ( Don't be a statist!)
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To: DoodleBob
The general assumption at the beginning was that everyone was going to get the disease, any vaccination was going to be years away, and the only thing you could do was to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed so you didn't have people dying in the hallways there who could have been saved with full treatment.

The only question was how much you could flatten the curve below the hospital limit. We did that spectacularly, but flattening the doesn't reduce the total number of infections unless you can entirely break the spread and no one hoped to do that or delay infections long enough until an effective treatment was found.

If the initial assumptions were right, and Sweden's hospitals haven't been overwhelmed, they chose correctly - get the inevitable done with quickly. Their infections and deaths should drop to near zero while the rest of the world are keeping separated and masked - maybe for years. If, on the other hand, we get an effective treatment then our method of delaying until treatment will save more lives. We still don't know the final results. If HCQ and friends works, but still allows the infected to develop immunity then we win. If it prevents infection but still leaves patients vulnerable to future infections, we will continue fighting the disease for years.

16 posted on 06/05/2020 6:51:26 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (In 2016 Obama ended America's 220 year tradition of peaceful transfer of power after an election.)
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To: Phillyred

Thanks for posting.


17 posted on 06/05/2020 6:53:08 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Um, I’m all-in on opening up - but while Sweden did some things right, slobbering all over Sweden reveals a misreading of the whole affair. They got to their “hands off” approach by trusting “science” and “experts.” And now, Sweden’s “science” and “experts” will likely “shut down” if the bug heats up in the fall/winter. I’ll take the bedlam and freedom of the US vs the blind faith in “science” that gave us Greta.


18 posted on 06/05/2020 7:01:26 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: DoodleBob

Jesus. What happened to Forbes? It is supposed to be a financial publication. Thus you would at least think they would get the financials right. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/29/coronavirus-swedens-gdp-actually-grew-in-the-first-quarter.html

Sweden’s economy GREW .4% in the first quarter.


19 posted on 06/05/2020 7:02:21 PM PDT by Baldwin
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To: DoodleBob

Sweden is overrun by Muslims, they do not follow the laws so social distancing was a Non starter.

Strangely though, Forbes who supposedly is all about the economy, forgot to mention that Sweden did not loose their middle class economy.

The largest wealth transfer in history from the middle class to the wealthy just took place and Forbes missed that.

The 80,000 lb gorilla in the room.


20 posted on 06/05/2020 7:05:25 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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