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George Floyd’s preliminary autopsy raises the question: Was this another rush to judgement?Asphyxiation not the cause of death
American Thinker ^ | 05/30/2020 | Peter Barry Chowka

Posted on 05/30/2020 7:22:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Almost totally absent from the mainstream news Friday, as the violent insurrection in the wake of George Floyd’s death spread to cities nationwide, were the preliminary results of his autopsy. The report was part of the arrest warrant for Derek Michael Chauvin, the disgraced former Minneapolis police officer who was taken into custody on Friday afternoon and charged with the third-degree murder of Floyd while he was in police custody last Monday evening. The brief mention of the autopsy suggests that the case against Chauvin, and possibly his three colleagues assuming they too will eventually be charged, for being totally responsible for the death of Floyd may not be as cut and dried as previously thought.

The Washington Times headlined its story Friday afternoon “Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy.” An examination of the official complaint (arrest warrant) for Chauvin includes this sentence from a paragraph about Floyd’s cause of death on page 3:

The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.

Screen shot of paragraph from State of Minnesota vs. Derek Michael Chauvin

The eight-minute cell phone video showing Chauvin with his knee on Floyd’s neck after the latter’s arrest for allegedly trying to pass a $20 counterfeit bill, has become one of the most viewed videos of a police action of all time. Reporters, analysts, and almost everyone else in the country from left, right, and center have immediately jumped to the conclusion that Chauvin is clearly guilty of the murder of Floyd.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: autopsy; georgefloyd
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To: caww

RE: Dr. Michael Baden has a celebrity-spiked career as a forensic pathologist, fiction writer, and television host

So, does this mean he won’t be objective?


41 posted on 05/30/2020 7:53:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Mariner

I rather suspect he was told to file the charges and let the jury sort it out. Asphyxiation leaves telltale signs - the ones that prove Epstein didn’t kill himself, and the toxicology report will probably cast further doubt.

But that’s why he’s charged with manslaughter which has a lower standard of proof and will mean 3.5 to 5 years if he is convicted.

https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/george-floyd/what-is-third-degree-murder-and-second-degree-manslaughter-in-minnesota/89-605c84d4-dfc2-4bb9-a09b-4a0063c079ad


42 posted on 05/30/2020 7:54:39 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan)
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To: Gay State Conservative

RE: See Post 333

We have less than 50 posts in this thread as of this writing.


43 posted on 05/30/2020 7:54:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: marktwain

Sure very respectful knee. Almost in deep prayer


44 posted on 05/30/2020 7:57:04 AM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: marktwain

sometimes, you just can’t fix stupid; and that applies to you.


45 posted on 05/30/2020 7:57:31 AM PDT by WASCWatch (asse)
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To: caww

An expert for hire.Sorry,as a juror I’d never,ever believe such an “expert”.


46 posted on 05/30/2020 7:57:33 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Was this another rush to judgement?Asphyxiation not the cause of death...”

Doesn’t matter. That kind of roughing up/physical punishment could kill a lot of people by triggering other fatal mechanisms. The case shall proceed.


47 posted on 05/30/2020 7:58:35 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: caww

Good.


48 posted on 05/30/2020 7:58:40 AM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: wny
Ooops...sorry.The Army taught me to type!

I meant Post #33

49 posted on 05/30/2020 8:00:31 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
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To: Steven Tyler

Including tbe last 2 minutes. No attempt to roll him over to see his face?


50 posted on 05/30/2020 8:00:42 AM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: WASCWatch

The blood was not cut off to his brain.

With no blood flow to the brain, you lose consciousness in seconds.


51 posted on 05/30/2020 8:01:00 AM PDT by chris37 (China's Gift wasn't born in a bowl of bat soup.)
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To: keats5

So if you lean on the neck of someone who is high or who has cardiac issues, you are still liable for their death if your actions somehow exacerbated those deadly conditions.”””

AND-—in the heat of trying to subdue such a person-—PLEASE advise me how I would be able to ascertain such information.???

It is really easy to be a Monday Morning Quarterback.


52 posted on 05/30/2020 8:01:35 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: SeekAndFind
I meant Post #33.

Sorry

53 posted on 05/30/2020 8:02:00 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
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To: SeekAndFind

One time we showed up at a scene with six cops doing mouth to mouth CPR. I immediately thought what the heck did they do? Cops hardly ever have much patient contact. They had arrested a morbidly obese guy in his 20s who was trying to stick up for his friend. They hand cuffed him and threw him face down against the wall in an indian casino hotel hallway. He thrashed around for a minute or two, then he “calmed down”. After ten minutes they figured out that he was dead.

The first thing I did was make them take the cuffs off. They were making it impossible to do effective chest compressions or ventilation. But it didn’t make any difference he had been dead for two long. The drugs and shocks the paramedics gave him did nothing to alter his flat line.

I thought maybe we would be testifying at some point in the future because there was no doubt in anyone’s mind that the police had killed him. But these were tribal police and he was a white guy...


54 posted on 05/30/2020 8:03:00 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yet we believed him with the Epstein autopsy.


55 posted on 05/30/2020 8:03:05 AM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: Steven Tyler

Why not tase him?


56 posted on 05/30/2020 8:04:02 AM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: WASCWatch
sometimes, you just can’t fix stupid; and that applies to you.

Thanks for the confirmation of my argument, with the name-calling.

57 posted on 05/30/2020 8:04:06 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Loyd was staggering drunk, disoriented and having breathing difficulties when they dragged him out of the car. They had him handcuffed face down when the officer was standing on him. The cop got off him After 8 minutes when blood started coming out of his mouth and nose. I thought he had possibly died of an aneurysm, but it turned out to be a heart attack.

It wasn’t asphyxiation? So what? It was still caused by somebody standing on his neck for 8 minutes, while he gasped for breath and his heart rate soared.

I don’t know why FReepers are defending this out of control thug in a uniform (who already had TEN complaints for excessive use of force). I have LEO in the family and not a single one of them or their friends says this was either permitted or acceptable police behavior.


58 posted on 05/30/2020 8:04:37 AM PDT by livius
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To: SeekAndFind

The other cops get a pass?

59 posted on 05/30/2020 8:06:09 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba ("It's a lie. It's all lies.")
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To: fireman15

“dead for two long” Android autocorrect, a moden miracle.


60 posted on 05/30/2020 8:06:33 AM PDT by fireman15
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