Posted on 05/30/2020 7:22:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
autopsy of George Floyd revealed no physical findings
that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation
He died of a combination of preexisting Coranary heart disease,
and Hypertension heart disease
combined with "intoxicants" in his system.
You watched the video?
Remember where one bystander says: put him in the car!, and the officer replies: We just spent ten minutes trying to do that.
Several networks cut off the video just before that interchange is heard.
If, as it appears may have happened, you were just fighting with a very muscular male, who was kicking, stomping, and (perhaps trying to bite you), would you let him up again, to start all over, while you are waiting for the ambulance to arrive? (because he is acting as if he is high on drugs?)
Agreed, but if George was handcuffed lying face down on the street, why did three police officers conclude they needed to pin George to the pavement?
George was not going anywhere with those handcuffs on!
He is not face down on the street. Floyd is facing away from cop for 8 min. So cop cant even check if he is ok.
This is an example of the legal “eggshell-skull” rule, which means that a defendant cannot use a victim’s pre-existing weakness as a defense. It’s behind the legal maxim: “You take your victims as you find them.” https://definitions.uslegal.com/e/eggshell-skull-rule/
So if you lean on the neck of someone who is high or who has cardiac issues, you are still liable for their death if your actions somehow exacerbated those deadly conditions.
He is not a feral animal.
The autopsy does not support your conclusion from watching a video.
He was not strangled. That means the blood supply to the brain was not cut off.
He was not asphixiated. That means his air supply was not cut off.
Videos can be very misleading. The narrative was put out from the first that the officer killed him, with all kinds of conclusions which could fit the video, but without any potential alternate possibilities, which also fit the video.
Once the narrative is established, it is very hard to alter the first impression planted in peoples' minds.
...Very Muscular...
and 6 foot seven inch.
Not surprised three cops needed to hold him down
“Maybe not murder then, but clearly criminally negligent homicide or manslaughter”
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I’d put this in probably the same category as a cop, at gunpoint, forcing a heart patient to run a 5 minute mile.
Putting a knee on the back of his neck may NOT have been the direct cause of death, but if you have alcohol poisoning along with heart issues and other health problems, it definitely sped it along.
Chauvin and Floyd worked at a nightclub restaurant for years together...both as security. They knew each other. Very fishy.
I wish I had your ability to adjudge guilt and perform a psychic autopsy, from 1,000 miles away. It would make life so much more predictable...
Nothing more...nothing less.
If the toxicology screen isn't 100% clean (my guess is that it isn't) subtract some prison time from what the cop might have gotten if it had been clean.
George was not going anywhere with those handcuffs on!
Why not? He can still run, kick, head-butt, and bite. He was a very strong muscular guy.
He did not start lying face down on the street.
It appears that is where he ended up after violently resisting the police officers attempting to put him in the police car for some period of time.
We have not seen that video, but I expect some part of it, at least, with show up eventually.
The officers treated George very respectfully. He goes out of the frame of a video, walking pretty much on his own, in handcuffs. The next we see him, his down next to the police car, with three officers holding him down.
Something happened in between, as alluded to by the officer who said: "We just spent 10 minutes trying to get him into the car."
It is during that period, when the officers called for an ambulance.
There seems to be quite a few comments from sleepy FReepers who are very “concerned” about this
Names we don’t see on a regular basis until something like this happens
Dr. Michael Baden has a celebrity-spiked career as a forensic pathologist, fiction writer, and television host. Dr. Lowell Levine, who has known Baden since the 1960s, serving with him as co-director of pathology for the New York State Police said “Michael never saw a camera he didn’t like,”
There's also the cops checked for a pulse, found none, and waited two minutes before calling 911. No mention if they tried to perform CPR. I never heard of cops not trained on or reluctant to use CPR before.
See Post 333
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