Posted on 05/04/2020 9:01:38 PM PDT by Barnacle
Most of us have been in lockdown for about six weeks. The objective was to flatten the curve and reduce the total number of victims of COVID-19. Well, the curve has been flattened indeed, but how is it six-weeks later there are 25,375 new cases in a single day?
With all the laws and policies implemented to knock out this virus, I expected we’d be on the last leg of the downward curve by now. But, instead of a peak and decline, we’ve had three peaks and shallow valleys between them.
If people are staying at home, practicing social distancing, wearing masks in public, washing their hands and sanitizing everything in sight, how is it that COVID-19 continues to be transmitted from person to person?
A couple possibilities that occurred to me are that: 1) People flouting the laws, or 2) The virus is phenomenally virulent beyond anything ever seen before ( bio-weapon).
I was fully on board with the lockdown orders when they were issued. It was what we needed to do to beat this. However, we are at the point that the cure is becoming worse than the disease. In addition to what this virus has done to people directly, what about the collateral damage, such as long-term damage to our economy? For instance, consider the first two trillion dollar bail-out. Who pays for it? If you are among the approximate one-hundred-million US tax payers, you do. The federal government just signed your name to a $20,000 loan. Don’t think so? Do the math.
It would be particularly interesting to hear the stories of COVID-19 cases that you’ve heard of in the last couple weeks and theories of how they were exposed.
Should we just let this thing take an inevitable course, or should we double-down on lock-down?
Yeah! The grave is the ultimate social distancing so just put on your dirt mask and follow your business and Trump's economy to it! And stop being so selfish!
For the elites, humanity is the disease.
Congratulations,sir. You're living in a state where your health is your personal responsibility instead of being a lowly serf like the rest of us. We have to make a decision whether to meekly accept our chains or become an outlaw every day.
In Britain, the specially made Nightingale Hospital, for the Covid epidemic, was rumoured to be empty. This seems strange, but the rumours now seem confirmed, as the British govt has announced that the hospital will be closed for the time being, and reopened if there is a second wave of infections.
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There’s your mistake right there, pal. If you surrender your rights at the first sign of trouble, you've already showed us what a simpering coward you are. Don’t expect me to have any sympathy for you when you realize you’re sitting in a boxcar rolling into the death camp.
It’s a numbers game. We’re testing more than before so we find more cases.
The only number that matters is hospitalizations. Because we were told this economic WMD was vital so that our hospitals weren’t overwhelmed.
That hasn’t happened. Time to get on with it.
The writer skipped school the day they had math, huh?
People talk about "the curve" and "the surge" as if they know the population epidemiology of the virus and the disease it causes, when no one has any idea.
The left hand side of the "curve" is the same everywhere, differing only in the height of the peak. Day One three cases, Day 14, BANG, five thousand, ten thousand, whatever. Everybody who writes about this presumes the right hand of the "curve" is symmetrical - fast up, fast down - but this is not true anywhere on earth.
Once cases reach a peak, they stay there for a while. Any decline is slow, and "spikey", meaning, during a decline there are good days and bad days, and it's hard over any few days to map a trend.
My assumption in my low incidence area is that there are many susceptibles and that this will go on for months at more or less the current rates.
The big issue for decision makers personal futures is, will loosening restrictions make things worse? We know that strong majorities favor continued restrictions BUT they also are mildly positive towards loosening using a "I hope they know what they're doing" rubric.
If loosening turns out badly, the voters are going to land on the politicians in power like a ton of bricks.
By what we are seeing in the number of people who have the antibodies we were in a herd environment from December late November before we were all ordered into a lock down quarantine.
It is virulent as hell but not really harmful. It only adversely affects a small demographic. The economic damage is so disproportionate to the threat and it has to stop.
More tests being done, plus other illnesses being counted as COVID19.
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Thread could have ended after your post. That is the simple answer.
The are some people incapable of making that distinction. I feel it is an IQ thing, low IQ's can't differentiate or place a value on the fact that there is HUGE low risk group and a TINY high risk group.
So you’re a person that has a job where you can work from home so you have no problem with a lockdown. If you were one of those 26 million people who has lost their job, have no income, and bills to pay you might not be so pro lockdown.
You called someone else selfish in another post. Maybe you should look in a mirror hypocrite.
It can't be stopped and all these draconian measures are meant to stop our hospitals from being overwhelmed and we know that for 90 percent of the country, the hospitals aren't being overwhelmed.
So lets stop with all this nonsense and let the people go on with their lives.......
I'm sitting here typing this because I survived the 2017-18 epidemic without even knowing one existed........
This is very true in my neck of the woods... And it's the young folks who refuse to cooperate in any way, shape or form... :(
“With all the laws and policies implemented to knock out this virus, I expected we’d be on the last leg of the downward curve by now. But, instead of a peak and decline, we’ve had three peaks and shallow valleys between them.”
Go shopping in the US, and then go shopping in Taiwan, and you’ll you EXACTLY why they have no new cases and we have 25,000 a day.
I did modified lockdown. I’ve been working on a special project at my company’s warehouse. Mostly working alone but interacting with the warehouse employees who don’t practice much social distancing.
Each day’s lunch was supporting a local carry out place.
Made at least one trip to Home Depot or Walmart every day, in a hotspot.
As of last week, they had no cases and most live in a hotspot area.
I haven’t gone in over the last week because I got sick. With bronchitis. Not a big deal.
If this thing is that bad, why didn’t I get it?
80 percent will have mild to moderate symptoms.
20 percent will end up in the hospital.
20 percent of those who end up in the hospital will die.
Wrong. Massive numbers of people have had it. Your numbers are without antibody tests.
The final death rate is under 0.7%, according to South Korea’s random sampling, which included antibody testing.
Do you think Americans are six to ten fold less healthy than South Koreans?
I’m sorry, but I can’t see how Trump’s re-election chances go down at all. He keeps reminding people of the “best economy the world has ever seen” that was created under his watch. Who is most likely going to be the one to bring the US back from the brink of economic annihilation—some democrat? a progressive? a socialist? a Bush-type? an Obama-type? a McConnel? a Graham? Pelosi? Schumer? AOC? (it’s getting ridiculous now) pick anyone you want and ask yourself, who is going to bring the US back to economic stability and prosperity?
I see no one, but the present occupant...and my reason for saying that is....He’s done it before!
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