Coronavirus - From North to South 1039 patients treated with hydroxychloroquine at home. The point on experimentation: "Collapse of hospitalizations"

il Fatto Quotidiano via google translate ^ | Peter D'angelo

[absalom01]

"I am a doctor and, positive for Covid19 , I immediately took hydroxychloroquine : in 3-4 days the fever and the other symptoms disappeared ". This is how Paola Varese , head of cancer medicine at the Ovada hospital in Piedmont , begins . "I applied the same protocol on myself that I planned for 276 patients at home," continues Varese , stressing that "timely intervention by family doctors in patients' homes is essential, with hydroxychloroquine associated with heparin (and if necessary the ' antibiotic ). It is presumable - he says - that the collapse of thehospitalization is due to the immediate use of the drug : we only had 7 hospitalizations: according to the projected expectations of the ISS we should have had 55 ".

It is necessary to intervene from the beginning of the symptomatology , per Imola . "We started administering hydroxychloroquine at home on March 27 and since then 231 patients have been treated promptly." This was reported by Andrea Rossi , Extraordinary Commissioner of the Imola Local Health Authority . The results? "We had a 50% reduction in admissions to intensive care and hospitalization first aid ." ...

The only Italian study , already approved, will start in the Marche : it is the Hydro-Stop-Covid-19 Trial , on the early administration of hydroxychloroquine . The "principal investigator" is Procolo Marchese , from the cardiology department of the "Mazzoni" hospital in Ascoli Piceno . “It all started with 20 patients (mean age 63 years, 72% male) positive with swab . All were treated with hydroxychloroquine : 400 mg x 2 on the first day and 200 mg x 2 for 5 days, in 40% of cases with the addition of antibiotics . Clinical improvement at first contact after approximately 7 days covered 80% of patients".

[absalom01]

OK, the translation is a little ragged but this report from a Roman paper outlines their results of using a version of the Hydroxy/ZPak protocol. No mention of zinc, but they do include a reference to heparin, which is an anti-coagulant (we're seeing thrombosis in health patients in New York as well, according to my sources.)

Early days, but there's a clear signal in the data here that argue for early intervention with these safe, cheap, widely available drugs, along with continued innovation, observation, and communication among front-line doctors everywhere. Except China. We can't trust those guys.

We're gonna need a therapy for this stuff, the sooner the better.

[ronnie raygun]

These rat states like NY see only 39000 per victim. The meds would have closed them down as we see here. Despicable

[Hostage]

> “... outlines their results of using a version of the Hydroxy/ZPak protocol. No mention of zinc, ...”

Like the French, many Italians drink wine with meals. Wine is a source of Zinc. They most likely have plasma Zinc levels higher on average than we do here.

HCQ pushes Zinc from blood plasma into cells, so if the Zinc is already there, then no need for a Zn supplement.

[MHGinTN]

The flat cells lining blood vessels have ACE2 receptor sites. The virus attaches at ACE2 sites to enter the cell. HCQ attaches at ACE2 sites to ferry ZINC into the cells, stopping the replication of virus which kills the epithelial cells. The busted cells cause clotting, so the hCQ tends to reduce the potential for this clotting in the lower pressure vessels like arteriole. And yup the wine drinking does up the circulating zinc.

[MHGinTN]

The Heprin is to deal with the potential clotting factor.

[LibFreeUSA]

I’m watching Fox right now. They and their guests are lamenting on the “high number of deaths at nursing homes”.... BUT NO ONE IS ASKING “WHY???”...

I feel that many of these poor nursing home folks died from LACK OF IMMEDIATE and PROPER TREATMENT!!!!

No one is asking this question, because they don’t want to hear the answer.

[absalom01]

Now you tell me!

Bottle of red, bottle of white!

[Secret Agent Man]

taking garlic/allicin would help thin the blood, among many other supplements that do so

but with garlic/allicin you get antibacterial/antiviral fighting capability as well

[MHGinTN]

Spot on!

[entropy12]

Nuts such as pine nuts, peanuts, cashews and almonds can boost your intake of zinc, besides red meat, and nuts are cheaper than meat and have less saturated fats which clogs arteries.

[SeekAndFind]

I'd like everyone to notice this particular sentence in the article...

"it is the Hydro-Stop-Covid-19 Trial , on the early administration of hydroxychloroquine . The "principal investigator" is Procolo Marchese , from the cardiology department of the "Mazzoni" hospital in Ascoli Piceno"

Once again, THAT IS THE POINT --- THE EARLY ADMINISTRATION OF HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE. Every successful doctor, from Dr. Vladimir Zelenko to Dr. Stephen Smith have been emphasizing this. The point is to PREVENT hospitalization, especially intubation.

Notice though, how a lot of the so-called studies that concluded that hydroxychloroquine was NOT effective, applied it to HOSPITALIZED patients. The NIH sponsored study in fact applied it to patients on the late stage of their disease. These are designed, not to replicate the successful cases, but to FAIL.

[entropy12]

But garlic can be bad for your social life, LOL.

[Mr Rogers]

“have less saturated fats which clogs arteries”

Well, you just blew your credibility.

[politicianslie]

They and their guests are lamenting on the “high number of deaths at nursing homes

There was a post from Josh Bernstein that said the large number of nursing home deaths is caused by gubermint policy! It seems NY according to his sources is taking nursing home people found infected while in hospitals to be returned to nursing homes!

If true, then that would explain why NY/NJ death rates are very high compared to the rest of the country.

YOUTUBE REAKING TRUTH BOMB: HERE'S THE REAL SICK REASON NY & NJ DEATHS HAVE BEEN SO HIGH

at time 6:25 "Governor policies required that infected corona virus patients to be sent back to the nursing home."

I guess to keep from being sued into oblivion (no worry, Cuomo is a DemonRAT), a defense would be that the policy of shipping elderly to nursing homes would be to keep hospitals clearer for ....)

Any way I look at this it stinks. I was checking FR for news of the WHO/BillGATES/Fauci email hacks and news about NY/NJ elderly murder by Democrats to see if the story is out there somewhere else.

[AustinBill]

Zelenko hasn’t been shy about these “studies”, calling them outright fraudulent and maliciously misleading. Administering HCQ to patients who are already on ventilators and on death’s door doesn’t do a lot. What a surprise. The protocol is to hit the disease hard in the early stages well before patients need hospitalization. That’s the whole point of a $20 cure that avoids all of that expense and risk.

[entropy12]

How? Do You think saturated fats and lots of cholesterol in red meat are no problem for sedentary people (95% of Americans over Medicare age).

[entropy12]

Since I have no symptoms of covid-19, I can’t get prescription for HCQ. So I am doing the next best thing, eating foods rich in zinc (shell fish, nuts, red meat etc) and drinking tonic water with Quinine LOL.

[absalom01]

That’s the thing that is so amazing to me. When it comes to every other infection, cancer, even stroke the mantra is, and has always been “early intervention is critical”.

Now, our garbage media is so invested in discrediting Dr. Zelenko’s protocol (which they won’t reference) because they think it makes Trump look bad. They’re not serious.

They will stop at nothing: they demand “double-blind peer-reviewed studies” for the Zelenko protocol, but forget their passion for Science! when it comes to Remdesivir.

All the while they have to hold two ideas in their heads simultaneously. 1) hydroxychloroquine (ima just call it Oxy from here on out) is a deadly poison if you take it for five days and will surely stop your heart cold AND 2) Oxy, which a split second ago was death on wheels, is suddenly safe and essential for a daily use for an entire lifetime if you happen to have lupus.

Both of those thoughts cant’ be true. But they keep on with it.

Doesn’t mean that I think we should just accept the Zelenko Protocol without monitoring, evaluation, and improvement where needed.

[Mr Rogers]

“Do You think saturated fats and lots of cholesterol in red meat are no problem for sedentary people...”

I think dietary saturated fats have nothing to do with heart attacks or strokes.

https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/science#heartdisease

http://www.sci-news.com/medicine/dairy-consumption-risk-cardiovascular-disease-06411.html

“In March the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition published a meta-analysis—which combines data from several studies—that compared the reported daily food intake of nearly 350,000 people against their risk of developing cardiovascular disease over a period of five to 23 years. The analysis, overseen by Ronald M. Krauss, director of atherosclerosis research at the Children’s Hospital Oakland Research Institute, found no association between the amount of saturated fat consumed and the risk of heart disease....

...In 2008 Stampfer co-authored a study in the New England Journal of Medicine that followed 322 moderately obese individuals for two years as they adopted one of three diets: a low-fat, calorie-restricted diet based on American Heart Association guidelines; a Mediterranean, restricted-calorie diet rich in vegetables and low in red meat; and a low-carbohydrate, nonrestricted-calorie diet. Although the subjects on the low-carb diet ate the most saturated fat, they ended up with the healthiest ratio of HDL to LDL cholesterol and lost twice as much weight as their low-fat-eating counterparts.”

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/carbs-against-cardio/

[Hostage]

French and Italian drink mostly red. Red has the Zn. They drink white with seafood but seafood is loaded with Zn. Either way they get it.

Here our red meats should have lots of Zn but unfortunately don’t. Our soils are depleted of Zn and other nutrients.

I predict there will be years of study how we can get nutrients in our diets that provide protection.

But for now, Dr. Z’s Zinc supplement is plenty and it’s cheap.