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Study finds no benefit, higher death rate in patients taking hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19
CNN Fake News ^ | 21 April 2020 | Elizabeth Cohen and Dr. Minali Nigam

Posted on 04/21/2020 2:49:58 PM PDT by Magnatron

Coronavirus patients taking hydroxychloroquine, a treatment touted by President Trump, were no less likely to need mechanical ventilation and had higher deaths rates compared to those who did not take the drug, according to a study of hundreds of patients at US Veterans Health Administration medical centers.

The study, which reviewed veterans' medical charts, was posted Tuesday on medrxiv.org, a pre-print server, meaning it was not peer reviewed or published in a medical journal. The research was funded by the National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia.

In the study of 368 patients, 97 patients who took hydroxychloroquine had a 27.8% death rate. The 158 patients who did not take the drug had an 11.4% death rate.

"An association of increased overall mortality was identified in patients treated with hydroxychloroquine alone. These findings highlight the importance of awaiting the results of ongoing prospective, randomized, controlled studies before widespread adoption of these drugs," wrote the authors, who work at the Columbia VA Health Care System in South Carolina, the University of South Carolina and the University of Virginia.

Researchers also looked at whether taking hydroxychloroquine or a combination of hydroxychloroquine and the antibiotic azithromycin, had an effect on whether a patient needed to go on a ventilator.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


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CNN doubles down...

And before you say: “Why post this crap?”

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

-- Sun Tzu

1 posted on 04/21/2020 2:49:58 PM PDT by Magnatron
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To: Magnatron

CNN is at Hustler magazine levels now....


2 posted on 04/21/2020 2:51:31 PM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: Magnatron

Bull crap. They’ve resisted at every turn, they finally got it to where people would only take it right before they were circling the drain, and then they claim it doesn’t work. Meanwhile, actual doctors treating patients so it’s nothing less than a miracle cure. And it’s $.50 a dose instead of the $200 Bill Gates solution. You know Bill Gates, he’s the non-medical guy famous for not being able to stop a single virus in his computer.


3 posted on 04/21/2020 2:52:24 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Magnatron

If you are ever struck down by an illness and need a caregiver, don’t select a woke liberal.


4 posted on 04/21/2020 2:52:48 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Magnatron

Here’s a Walmart calling card....so I can call BS on this.


5 posted on 04/21/2020 2:53:23 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Magnatron

They’ll cook the books and cherry-pick data every chance they can to put a negative spin on the truth - not that I know what the truth is, but I recognize an agenda a mile away.


6 posted on 04/21/2020 2:54:13 PM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity
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To: Magnatron

Let’s face it - We’ve lost (and by extension Trump has lost) the PR battle on this.


7 posted on 04/21/2020 2:54:53 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: Magnatron

My exhaustive study proves CNN are lying sacks of crap.


8 posted on 04/21/2020 2:55:37 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Magnatron
The research was funded by the National Institutes of Health and . . .

Made to order "science", compliments of the now infamous Dr. Fauci.

9 posted on 04/21/2020 2:56:22 PM PDT by RatRipper ( Democrats and socialists are vile liars, thieves and murderers - enemies of good and America.)
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Here’s the big question: How bad were the ones who took the HCQ vs the ones who didn’t? I’m betting the ones who took it were in much worse condition than the ones who didn’t and it was a last ditch effort to save them.


10 posted on 04/21/2020 2:57:08 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Fauci wants you to believe that you get covid-19 and you die. It's fear mongering at its worst.)
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The deep stat stands to lose trillions of dollars when it comes out that the malaria drug cures more than malaria, cvirus. Big pharma/deep stat is losing all the way around.
11 posted on 04/21/2020 2:57:58 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Lefty propaganda is absolutely Crazy. They actually do not want any successful HCQ therapy at all necause it means Presidential success. They would sooner see people die? HorribleT

The Truth:


12 posted on 04/21/2020 2:58:26 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama Fascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: jmaroneps37

ask all the people who HAVE recovered because of it.
The Dem State Rep in Michigan & Cifelli? (the CNBC guy)who both swear by this...and many others.
Fake News CNN


13 posted on 04/21/2020 2:58:52 PM PDT by GAHeel
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To: Magnatron

It is not clear the patient’s were matched well, i.e. the the ones that got HCQ were probably sicker. If I did a study of COVID19 patients for outcomes between those who were on a ventilator and those that were not, certainly those on the ventilators would have much higher death rates.


14 posted on 04/21/2020 3:00:32 PM PDT by wfu_deacons
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Study does not analyze

hyrdroxychloroquine with zithromax and zinc.

There is no inclusion of zinc in this study— which is the consistent recommendation and consistent with studies supporting the usage.

I did read the actual study and it does concede that HCQ + zithromax is more effective than HCQ alone.

That is deliberately left out of these media reports.

Yes, it is a hack job.


15 posted on 04/21/2020 3:02:00 PM PDT by lonestar67 (America is exceptional)
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To: Magnatron

I noticed the article didn’t allow for comments.

I know that is surprising to most people :^)

Can’t have the peasants talking back.


16 posted on 04/21/2020 3:04:13 PM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: Magnatron

And before you say: “Why post this crap?”

“...If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Thank you for taking the time to check out the latest propaganda, so others will be spared.

A distant relative that works in a hospital tested positive and admitted, was IMEADEATLY STARTED ON THE ANTI MALARIAL DRUG.
Five days hospital, a week or so home quarantine and back to work.


17 posted on 04/21/2020 3:05:08 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: Magnatron

This is truly a sign of extreme desperation on the part of the corrupt leftist media. It will be easy to debunk their own ludicrous debunkery, as there are many studies currently being conducted with extreme care and according to proper procedure, across the world that will make CNN wish they had just kept their electronic mouths shut.

But that would take foresight and rational thinking, neither of which take place in CNN’s editorial offices. They are sick.


18 posted on 04/21/2020 3:06:56 PM PDT by Richard Axtell (I am at a loss, how much lower will they go before all hell breaks loose?)
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To: wfu_deacons

Yes, it is VERY possible that HCQ was given only to the sicker patients. When a study says “retrospective” (which it does) that means the above is possible.
You can only have confidence in randomized double-blind studies, and this one doesn’t qualify.


19 posted on 04/21/2020 3:07:35 PM PDT by shoe212 (One of the few Conservative professors in the Midwest.)
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To: Magnatron

Here is the money finding within the text of the study:

“There were 27 deaths (27.8%) in the HC group, 25 deaths (22.1%) in the HC+AZ group, and 18 deaths (11.4%) in the no HC group (Table 3). Mechanical ventilation occurred in 13.3% of the HC group, 6.9% of the HC+AZ group, and 14.1% of the no HC group (Table 4).”

Notice that ventilation was needed LEAST in the group of patients treated with HC+AZ (6.9%).

so in reality, the study finds that HC+AZ significantly reduces the need for ventilation. Oops.

If you have doubts about this, check it out:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20065920v1.full.pdf


20 posted on 04/21/2020 3:08:01 PM PDT by lonestar67 (America is exceptional)
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