Skip to comments.Newly Declassified Papadopoulos Transcript Exposes Crossfire Hurricane Corruption
Posted on 04/15/2020 6:01:21 AM PDT by Kaslin
A newly declassified transcript calls into question the entire Crossfire Hurricane investigation: Why was it started, and why did it continue?
Attorney General William Barr said last week that the evidence shows that were not dealing with just mistakes or sloppiness in the Crossfire Hurricane investigation. Rather, there is something far more troubling here.
Without any basis, Barr added in his sit-down interview with Fox News Laura Ingraham, they started this investigation of [Trumps] campaign, and even more concerning actually is what happened after the campaign, a whole pattern of events while he was president to sabotage his presidency or at least have the effect of sabotaging the presidency.
While Barr did not elaborate on the evidence hes seen, a declassified transcript made public earlier in the week of a wired conservation between former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos and a Crossfire Hurricane confidential human source (CHS), when read in tandem with Inspector General Michael Horowitzs report on Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) abuse, substantiates Barrs view that it wasnt just mistakes.
When the transcript of the CHSs secretly recorded conversation with Papadopoulos was released last week, the media highlighted his adamant denial of any Trump-campaign involvement into the hacking of the Democratic National Committees emails. The coverage also focused on Papadopouloss denials being withheld from the FISA court.
But we already knew that: The IGs report identified the failure to inform the FISA court of Papadopouloss denials as two of the 17 significant inaccuracies and omissions. Specifically, the IG report noted the initial FISA application [o]mitted Papadopouloss consensually monitored statements to an FBI CHS in September 2016 denying that anyone associated with the Trump campaign was collaborating with Russia or with outside groups like Wikileaks in the release of emails.
The report explained that error was repeated in the three subsequent FISA renewal applications, adding that those applications also [o]mitted Papadopouloss statements to an FBI CHS in late October 2016 denying that the Trump campaign was involved in the circumstances of the DNC email hack.
The declassified transcript, however, does much more than hammer home the FISA abuse. It reveals a stark difference between Papadopouloss September 2016 denial of involvement in the DNC email hack and his denial a month later.
The Sept. 15, 2016, wired conversation was between Papadopoulos and Stefan Halper, whom the IG report identified as Source 2. That meeting occurred over pre-dinner drinks, and Halper was tasked with asking Papadopoulos direct questions about whether the Trump campaign benefitted from, or anyone in the Trump campaign had knowledge of, Russian assistance or the Wikileaks release of information that was damaging to the Clinton campaign.
According to the IG report, [W]hen Source 2 initially asked about Wikileaks, Papadopoulos commented that with respect to [Julian] Assange no one knows what hes going to release and that he could release information on Trump as a ploy to basically dismantle [or] undercut the next President of the United States regardless of who its going to be. Papadopoulos also stated that no one has proven that the Russians actually did the hacking.
Halper later asked Papadopoulos directly whether help from a third party like Wikileaks for example or some other third party like the Russians, could be incredibly helpful in securing a campaign victory. The IG report summarized Papadopouloss response:
Well as a campaign, of course, we dont advocate for this type of activity because at the end of the day its, ah, illegal. First and foremost it compromises the US national security and third it sets a very bad precedence [sic]. So the campaign does not advocate for this, does not support what is happening. The indirect consequences are out of our hands. [F]or example, our campaign is not engag[ing] or reaching out to wiki leaks or to the whoever it is to tell them please work with us, collaborate because we dont, no one does that. Unless theres something going on that I dont know which I dont because I dont think anybody would risk their, their life, ah, potentially going to prison over doing something like that. Um because at the end of the day, you know, its an illegal, its an illegal activity. Espionage is, ah, treason. This is a form of treason. I mean thats why, you know, it became a very big issue when Mr. Trump said, Russia if youre listening Do you remember? And you know we had to retract it because, of course, he didnt mean for them to actively engage in espionage but the media then took and ran with it.
Halper raised the issue again, and Papadopoulos replied: To run a shop like that of course its illegal. No ones looking to obviously get into trouble like that and, you know, as far as I understand thats, no ones collaborating, theres been no collusion and its going to remain that way. But the media, of course, wants to take a statement that Trump made, an off-the-cuff statement, about [how] Russia helped find the 30,000 emails and use that as a tool to advance their [story] that Trump is a stooge and if hes elected hell permit the Russians to have carte blanche throughout Eastern Europe and the Middle East while the Americans sit back and twiddle their thumbs. And thats not correct.
While Papadopouloss September 2016 denials to Halper were strident and unequivocal, the IG report made clear that the Crossfire Hurricane team found them unconvincing. Case Agent 1, publicly known to be Joe Pientka, told the IG that he and the team discounted Papadopouloss denials for several reasons.
The IG report noted that Pientka said, [T]he Crossfire Hurricane teams assessment was that Papadopouloss denial to the CHS was a rehearsed response. His response to the direct questions seemed weird, Pientka said, because it seemed rehearsed and almost rote. Papadopoulos went from a free-flowing conversation with [Halper] to almost a canned response, Pientka claimed.
The IG report further noted that Case Agent 1 emailed SSA 1 and others to report that Papadopoulos gave a canned answer, which he was probably prepped to say when asked. According to the report, Pientka said that it remained a topic of conversation on the Crossfire Hurricane team for days afterward whether Papadopoulos had been coached by a legal team to deny any involvement because of the noticeable change in the tenor of the conversation.
Another agent likewise told the IG that his main observation was that when Papadopoulos was pushed for answers, he seemed to have a prepared statement. It sounded like a lawyer wrote it. When the Office of General Counsels Deputy General Counsel Trisha Anderson later learned of Papadopouloss responses while working on a letter to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, she said Papadopouloss statements to Halper sounded self-serving and like a lawyered statement.
These excerpts make clear that the Crossfire Hurricane team uniformly viewed Papadopouloss denials to Halper as contrived. In contrast, the IG report makes no mention whatsoever of Crossfire Hurricane team members viewing Papadopouloss denials to Source 3 on Oct. 31, 2016, as being similarly suspect. None.
This is where the declassified transcript of Papadopouloss conversation proves essential. From the IG report, his conversations with Halper and Source 3 seemed very similar. But the recently declassified transcript reveals a much different relationship between Papadopoulos and Source 3 and a much different conversation.
Papadopoulos spoke with Source 3 for more than four hours during lunch and at a casino. Papadopoulos shared with Source 3 everything from his views on millennials they were lazy to his disdain for condoms. The conversation was friendly and uninhibited. In the midst of these off-the-cuff and cordial exchanges, Papadopoulos chatted with Source 3 about politics, the DNC hack, and Russia.
When Source 3 asked Papadopoulos whether he thought Russias playing a big game in this election, Papadopoulos said, Thats all bullsh-t, adding, No one knows whos hacking [the DNC]. Could be the Chinese, could be the Iranians, it could be some Bernie supporters. Papadopoulos said the arguments about Russians are all conspiracy theories, and he knew for a fact that no one from the Trump campaign had anything to do with releasing emails from the DNC, because Papadopoulos said he had been working with them for the last nine months. And all of this stuff has been happening, what, the last four months?
Significantly, Papadopoulos told Source 3 that Halper had asked him the same questions and he believed [Halper] was going to go and tell the CIA or something if Id have told him something else. I assume thats why he was asking. And I told him, absolutely not. [I]ts illegal, you know, to do that.
That Papadopoulos told Source 3 he thought Halper was working for the CIA seems a pretty good indication he didnt have the same qualms about Source 3. Papadopouloss insulting commentary on congressmen Do you know how many Members of Congress Ive met that know jack about anything? Except what their advisors tell them? They can barely put a sentence together. Im talking about Members of Congress dude and his braggadocio about making himself a brand and monetizing his connections also suggest he had no idea Source 3 was wired
So why didnt the Crossfire Hurricane team members consider the possibility that Papadopouloss denials to Source 3 were legitimate? Arguably, the team had a solid basis for discounting his denials to Halper, but the transcript of Papadopouloss conversation with Source 3 reveals those same justifications dont hold. This point goes well beyond FISA abuse and calls into question the entire Crossfire Hurricane investigation: Why was it started, and why did it continue?
And why didnt the IG report discuss how the Crossfire Hurricane team viewed Papadopouloss denials to Source 3? After extensively discussing the reaction of team members to Papadopouloss denials to Halper, the IG report is virtually silent on the impact of his continued denials.
The report merely notes that Pientka received a document with these Papadopoulos statements included in it a few days after the October 2016 meeting, and that Pientka told the IG that he was familiar with this CHS meeting at the time and probably reviewed the summary of the interview containing these statements. Yet when asked why he had not shared the statements with the Office of Intelligence or included it in the FISA renewal applications, Pientka said he did not recall but the information would not have been purposely withheld but it may have been accidentally omitted.
The more significant query is why didnt these denials give the Crossfire Hurricane team pause before it continued its investigation into Donald Trump? Barr is right: this doesnt smell like a mere mistake.
Line them all up against the wall and start Executing them, someone is bound to confess before the bullet is fired at them.
:: Without any basis, Barr added in his sit-down interview with Fox News Laura Ingraham, they started this investigation of [Trumps] campaign, and even more concerning actually is what happened after the campaign, a whole pattern of events while he was president to sabotage his presidency or at least have the effect of sabotaging the presidency. ::
Subpoena and depose the FISC judges!
They can’t ALL be so incompetent as to be so easily deceived over such a long period of time.
2 warrants were signed AFTER Trump was elected by 2 different judges, yet NOT ONE JUDGE said, “Whoa, you want to investigate a sitting President?”
Every time I read about this three little words come to mind:
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Can Source 3 now be publicly named by Papadopoulos?
It’s as if the intelligence community had their own agenda, and a disregard for rules?
Can’t be. If that were the case, people would be going to jail.
True. Unless people are executed for this, it will continue. The punishment for these crimes must greatly out weigh the benefit.
My feelings exactly.
This was an attempted coup, and it was Treason.
Barr has not arrested anyone, charged anyone, or incarcerated anyone. In fact, he has declined to prosecute McCabe and Comey on charges that would have landed you or I in Federal prison.
You are absolutely correct
Death is a highly under rated motivator.
The real question should be how low down the chain must justice go before the executions are stopped.
So to the corrupt FBI, if you deny working with the Russians, you are lying and therefor guilty. If you admit to working with the Russians, you indite yourself, and you are therefor guilty.
It’s as if both parties want to cover up for the ineligible usurper they allowed into the Oval Office who corrupted the entire government.
We do not live in the People's Republic of China, or North Vietnam, or the Former Soviet Union, or even Russia today.
Our system is a more subtle form of tyranny, and will take a more subtle form of reprisal.
The Media/Governmental/Intelligence apparatus complex must be taken down in an, at minimum, an apparantly Constitutional way.
Otherwise we simply arrive at tyranny by a slightly different route.
Ok Fine, we can HANG THEM ON THE WHITE HOUSE LAWN One at a time then, and we can give each of them the chance to CONFESS before the l;ever is pulled..
Do not prosecute in DC. They will not convict their own.
I always wondering if Papadopoulos had any idea he was being set-up. It seems at some point, he did catch on. That walrus Halper is no James Bond!
Preach it brother! There is no simple solution to this.....but there is a solution.
‘...Pientka said he did not recall but the information would not have been purposely withheld but it may have been accidentally omitted.
This from the guy who declared P’s answers sounded rehearsed and “lawyered”.
“They cant ALL be so incompetent as to be so easily deceived over such a long period of time.”
Seems to me you don’t get that job unless you are happy to be just an uncritical rubber stamp with a fat paycheck.
I mean, what would happen if we let the mafia appoint our US Attorneys? Would we get competent crime-fighting bulldogs? Or clueless and corrupt empty suits?
I really hope you are wrong, I'd hate to have to go postal.
...Pientka said he did not recall but the information would not have been purposely withheld but it may have been accidentally omitted.
This from the guy who declared Ps answers sounded rehearsed and lawyered.
Compare the treatment of Trump associates to HRC associates as part of the email investigation. Her IT guy was given immunity up front, but what the media neglects to tell you is that immunity only holds as long as you are truthful! After his interview they text one another that “he was lying his ass off” and yet they just shrug their shoulders and go about with the “no reasonable prosecutor would.....”
The double standard could NOT be more obvious and it should make everyone angry.
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